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Hi,

Anybody knows that will reproduction problem cause this problem? I've a 2-year-old female veiled chameleon just laid some infertile eggs. (She laid 2 clutches before.) I found blood in her stool and now she is very weak and can't eat anymore.

Besides, I've another female panther which has egg binding problem almost 1 year. She ate normally before. However, she can't eat anymore as the eggs become bigger and I also found blood in stool.

Anybody has suggestion?

Many thanks.

Are you sure they do not have parasites? Blood can be found in lizards stool when they do. The fact both have the blood would make me suspicious. May want to have a fecal done.

The girl who just layed the eggs who is weak would worry me big time. I would not let her go too long without finding out whats wrong.

Sure hope they will both be fine, let us know
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I'm sure they don't have parasites. The veiled is my 4th generation CB and the panther is also CB from my friend. Both of them haven't seen any problem before.

I don't know what could be causing the blood in the stool....but I would suggest that you take both of your females to the vet ASAP.

If your (2nd mentioned) female's eggs are becoming bigger and bigger, then she won't be able to lay them and she will likely die if you don't do something about it soon.

Most cases of eggbinding arise from improper husbandry (including inappropriate egglaying site)....so I suggest you review it....or post it here so we might able to help you figure out what could be wrong with it.

Other causes for eggbinding are physical...such as misformed/fused eggs, problems with the egglaying system in the chameleon, etc.

I hope that they are not to weak already to survive.

Hi Kinyonga,

The problem is there is no qualified vet in here (China). I think the egglaying site is ok. It is a large pot/rubbermaid with soil (~20cm depth). All of my female chameleons use the same setup and found no problem. Maybe she bred too early and caused the eggbinding problem. However, I'm wonder why this related to the blood in stool.

You said that they don't have parasites...just because the are CB doesn't mean that they couldn't have picked some up from the food that they have eaten. Have they been tested?

If the blood was to do with egg laying/production, I can't figure out why two different ones would have the same problem at the same time.

Is the blood red or dark in color? Are you sure that its blood?

As I said in my last post....please give details of the way you look after them because its usually improper care that leads to eggbinding.

I know that you said that you couldn't find one....but they really need the help of a vet.

Hi,
Yep, I'm not sure as they haven't been tested. I'll make a test for one of my chameleons.

The blood is red in color and I'm sure it is blood.

I'll post the photo of my setup in here soon.

By the way, both of them was died. I opened the panther and found many eggs but all the eggs was un-calcified. I was wonder why none of them is fully formed. She had not shown any MBD sympthom. Even she is calcium deficiency, I think some eggs should be calcified.......

Sorry so to hear that you lost them both. Its not easy losing pets especially when there is something wrong and you don't know what it is. Makes us feel very helpless.

Regarding the redness of the blood...it would indicate that its not stale but fresh.

You said...."I'm not sure as they haven't been tested. I'll make a test for one of my chameleons"...does this mean that you have more than just the two that died that you are going to test?

I'm not a vet...so I can't give you a definite answer about the eggs not being calcified. I have seen one chameleon that laid eggs that didn't have shells, but she had damage done to her during a fight with another chameleon which obviously caused internal damage to her egg-shelling gland. I don't know if something similar might have been possible with yours.

Sorry that I couldn't have been of more help....but you really needed a good herp vet.