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Hats off to this little guy! How 'bout a 4.3 lb, four year LTC, 5'9" superdwarf male locked up with a 67lb, 14+ foot lavender albino girl? Proportionally the same as a 180lb man locked up with a 2,800+lb woman! (LOL)
Who else is making superdwarf hets this year? Anyone ever made superdwarf hets with zero jampea influence in them before? Many prefer the overall mainland look of thicker, more defined patterning and vivid colors compared to dwarfs and superdwarfs, but unfortunately, this usually means BIG SNAKES..hopefully this union will lead to a more ball-python-sized albino 'tic, that keeps the vividness, and thick contrast of the mainland crosses. The female POS over a month ago and is due to lay any day...we'll see...Enjoy!

Close up of the female...

Full body shot of gravid female...

Lock-up #1

Lock-up #2

Lock-up #3

Wow. Just wow.

How does the super manage to like...not die?

Good Question! We have breeder male ball pythons that are larger than this male! We were worried about him getting crushed too...he seemed rather timid/scared when first put in the cage with the female, but eventually hormones got the better of him and he began trying...we asked around numerous big breeders and no one seemed to know of anyone breeding a superdwarf to a mainland albino female before...we were uncertain about our prospects, but we have confirmed via utrasound that she is indeed loaded with eggs and due to lay anyday...so the little midget miraculously got the job done! Still wondering..has anyone else ever tried this?

lol, just like a real man. Even high risk of death couldn't stop him for getting laid.

What will you call the offspring, If you call them superdwarf hets - thats saying that when you breed two of the babies together then you will get a super dwarf?? -
I could be wrong but I don't think you'll end up with 2nd generation superdwarfs maxing out at 6-11ft.
If this has NEVER been done before how do you know?
Just raising questions as its nice to know what your buying.

Just call them SuperXnormal

You bring up a very good point that I have pondered before...if today's "dwarf tigers" and "dwarf albinos" are actually only 50% jampea dwarf, and 50% mainland, why are they then called "dwarfs," the same as 100% Jampeas are called "dwarfs?"
Most breeders aknowledge that "Dwarf" as a term is a derivative of the prior usage of the jampea dwarf bloodline in conjunction with the lavender albino gene. Today's "dwarf albinos" are actually 50% Jampea, 50% mainland, and homozygous for lavender albinism. Although these half-Jampea animals are commonly called "Dwarfs" (just like pure jampeas) a more correct name for these hybrid animals would be "50% Jampea dwarf, 50% Mainland, homozygous for lavender albinism," does anyone agree or disagree with me?

To answer your question as to why I haphazardly termed the potential offspring of this pairing as "Superdwarf hets," I was piggy-backing off of today's parallel usage of dwarfism in conjuction with the albino gene. People call 50% Jampea, 50% mainland homozygous albinos "dwarf albinos," and the hets: "Dwarf hets," so I congruently called these "Superdwarf hets," because most people working on this project know what I mean, BUT, you are exactly right! They DEFINITELY would not be 100% Superdwarf, 100% het albinos as the term: "Pure Superdwarf hets" implies! The only way these could ever be produced is if someone imports the first ever heard of or seen WC superdwarf albino and breeds it to another superdwarf! Can you imagine having lavender and purple albino retics that stayed the same size as balls to sell? Kinda like having 10 inch albino Great White sharks to sell at the pet store(lol)
I also agree with you that these offspring should get significantly larger than pure superdwarfs...how much so is the question...but even more importantly: does the fact that they have ZERO Jampea influence in their genetics going to significantly effect their size, coloration, and/or manifestation of albinism on down the road when put alongside albinos produced by Jampea hybrids?
To my knowledge, there have only been THREE clutches of superdwarf x dwarf-albino retics produced before this year, BUT, this could indeed be the first ever superdwarf x pure mainland-albino retics produced...so far I have not been able to find any evidence of such a clutch from anyone despite asking all around. There is probably no way to know for sure, but does anyone out there know of a sub 5-pound snake successfully breeding a pure mainland albino before this?
As far as I can gather, Chris Marshall made superdwarf x dwarf-albinos for the first time in '04, and Pro Reptiles and Bob Clark each did it last year. Anyone out there know of any others?
What makes the potential offspring of this particular clutch so unique is that unlike the previous three clutches where 50% Jampea "Dwarf Albinos" were used to breed pure superdwarf females, this prospective clutch would be produced by a 100% pure superdwarf paired with a 100% pure mainland albino. The actual genetic makeup of the other three clutches would be 50% Superdwarf, 25% mainland Albino, and 25% Jampea. Many love the greenish-caste of Jampea influence as manifest in combination with other codom morphs and albinism....it will be interesting however to see the difference in these hets because the father was chosen specifically for his highly contrasting patterning and relatively vivid black lining and more mainland-ish coloring compared to many superdwarfs and jampeas in an effort to make a more super-dwarf sized albino with more of a mainland look. We'll see....
And so, to answer your original question, I still don't know what to heck to call the offspring from this clutch..."50% Superdwarf, 50% Mainland, 100% het albinos" just seems too long....any suggestions?