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Thanks Nisa for the posting info. Let's see if this works... this is an 05 poss het pied that we got a couple of months ago. I've never seen a ring like this that wasnt in a pied and wanted to know what you all thought...

CG

Looks like the one produced by Eric Sandoval?

Nice
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

11.42.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

Could be although I didnt purchase this BP from him... I'd like to contact Eric though and ask him some questions. Thanks for the info Tosha

Yeah - it is here is the original post on it in case you are interested....

forums.kingsnake.com/viewarch.php?id=903177,903177&key=2005
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

11.42.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

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Wouldn't her snake be considered a Low White Pied???? I have the Hunters Guide to Balls but get a little confused when it comes to true het markers or just look-alikes. Do you know what I mean???

I have also seen BP's looking like the one pictured for sale on the KS Classifieds as a Low White Pied.

I love the Ringers and Pieds though! And other than the Pastels they are my favorite morphs. ****scratches head and thinks**** or was it Mojaves??? Maybe it was Spiders? Hell I'll take em all. BP's in any color are just to Damn Cute to pass up. lol

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Christine
Tails With Scales Reptiles
Happiness is biting my snake back!

Even the lowest white pied will still have the abberant swirled pattern - this one does not also I beleive Eric said it does not have a completely white belly like a pied does.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

11.42.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi - yeah I know but my kids love the book)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 frogs rescued from pool skimmer

look just to the left and right of the white, that is definitely the pied pattern! then it fades back into normal
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Sign of the Serpent

The only "normal pattern on a true pied is on the head - no matter how low white the pied is it will always have an aberant body pattern. Ringers will have the abberant patterning only around the ring.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.42.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.1 Lizard of unknown origin

ok so it is not a low white pied but can it be 100% het for pied?
because the 100% hets we do see have normal patterns right?
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1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
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1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

What makes that snake a ringer and not a low white pied?Or should I say,what where the parents?I suppose that would explain it.

There is no pattern mutation, so it cant be a low white pied.

He's a 100% het pied. Someone mentioned the belly here's a pic. I sure wish I could keep them all.

Eric

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www.ESReptiles.com

The snake that Tosha posted a link for and the one here have the same pattern markings. Maybe I'm just seeing thing or stateing the obvious iuno.
Blake Deffenbaugh