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Veiled AND Pather?

lola44 Mar 03, 2006 10:25 AM

HI all, you may remember me posting here over the last couple of weeks, looking for cage plans (got 'em), and asking about cup feeding (decided against it). Well the cage is well on its way and assuming few interuptions this weekend it should be finished. So, here's where the question comes in,, I understand that the standard answer for size of an enclosure for an adult veiled is 2x2x4. I'm makeing a cage that is 2x4x4 with a removable divider to allow having either one large cage or the possibility of two 2x2x4's. So, is it possible to keep a veiled on one side and a panther on the other? I realize that they both require large areas, and that the panthers (from what I've read so far) require slightly lower ambient temps and basking temps. Also lower humidity. Would there be any huge draw backs in doing this? Thanks, Lo
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1.0.0 Veiled Chameleon (Stevie Ray)
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Replies (5)

WillHayward Mar 03, 2006 10:59 AM

Sure. Its the same as having two 2x2x4 cages side by side. Providing the divider blocks out their vision of each other, you should be good. You might think of using a sheet of painted or dark opaque acrylic instead of wood. Less hassle if it gets wet, a wood frame will dry out fast, but one sheet getting wet constantly is a pain.

Place the basking lights on the far edges of the cage so that you can better vary the temperature to each specie syou choose to keep in each side. You'll be able to experiment with different wattages of heat bulbs.


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dcmander Mar 03, 2006 02:58 PM

I plan on doing this with 2 veileds and/or 2 panthers for breeding purposes. I think it will work great. When they are ready to breed, just remove the divider!

Please post lots of good pics when you are finished! When I get out of college I plan to do this same thing, except I was thinking each cage would be 4hx3lx2w. I was also going to make the floor out of screen with supports underneath it (to support the pot plants) so that all the extra water from misting can drain through it and into a reservoir.

I would like to know more about how you are potting plants on the sides. In my plan only 2 of the 4 side panels will be screen (the divider and the back panel will be acrylic/wood). Is that enough ventiliation for both veildeds and panthers? Also what types of plants are you going to have on the sides and are you putting up moss or something on the solid panels? Do you fear crickets and bacteria will hide in there ?

I don't mean to hijack your thread I just want to discuss some of the things you are doing with your cage further =)
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1.0 Sunburst Veiled Chameleon -- Dexter
11.5 months

WillHayward Mar 03, 2006 03:36 PM

I feel strongly that people stress too much that chameleons cannot be kept in enclosures that feature glass sides. With a decent size enclosure and the heat souce in one corner there will always be airflow you can test this with a smoke machine. You chameleons will be fine, I assure you. Keep it clean, and all the obvious care maintenance and you won't have a problem (from the glass).

How can someone in the US tell me in Canada that my chameleon would cook in a glass cage? My basement has lowered to nearly 35F*.

Anyways, Here are some photos of a cage I used to use that is similar to what you are talking about. 260 gallon size.

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chaco Mar 03, 2006 11:43 PM

You need to remember that depending upon what you make it out of, a cage that is 4 feet wide won't fit thru a doorway.

WillHayward Mar 03, 2006 11:59 PM

But its only 2' deep ;p
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