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Just got back with a few lizards, 1.1 frillies, 1.2 crucigera (gravid) 1.2 Capra (gravid)

All in good condition, her are some photos if you need them, I will take better photos ASAP.
Also I will get 4 other species in 3 weeks, don’t know witch as my friend will surprise me. Guess this will be the year of the dragons for me.

Rgds

ps. thanks to you and ingo for the help

Size comparison adult capra vs. adult crucigera (both gravid)

Pattern variation in crucigera, these guys are quit entertaining, good hunters!

Darn, I was hoping for real crucigera! Photo #1 and #2 are lepidogaster and #3 is capra The 2 animals in your second post are both lepidogaster. Leps have quite varied pattern and are much smaller than capra and armata. I currently have 2.2 lepidogaster, 3 are patterened with the dark crosses and one is patterned more like the one on the right in your second post only more of a blue/gray with hints of green on the legs and some pink on the cheeks.

If you want to see pics of my animals in the ID format see www.froggieb.com/mhd_id.html. This is the most recent page I put together. The only thing missing is crucigera so I guess one could say that if it doesn't fit anything on this page it should be, not that it must be, crucigera!

Thanks anyway!
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Marcia - FroggieB Dragons
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I am sorry to disappoint you, before I read your post I was a proud owner of a trio crucigera. Now I have to agree no3 is capra and you are probably right about the 2 females not being crucigera even though the invoice says crucigera!

Hope you can excuse my inexperience, if I ever get more IL be glade to offer you photos.

Rgds

Only slight disappointment. I admire your enthusiasm and envy your access to all of these great species and the resources and space to be able to take advantage of that access!

I have had to limit myself to Acanthosaura only and it was Ingo who straightened me out on the different species. It took some time and a lot of mis-IDs to get it straight but once it clicked it all made sense!

The crucigera has been quite illusive though. I have seen the leps and now the armata coming into the states with more frequency. The armata are coming in from Malaysia and from the material I have read the crucigera are also found in Malaysia so I am surprised that we aren't seeing them too.

I have only known one or two keepers who have been so fortunate as to have had a crucigera and they have been single specimens and neither lived long.

Enjoy what you do have. In my opinion the lepidogaster are charming!
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Marcia - FroggieB Dragons
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Marcia thanks for the kind words, its peoples like you and Ingo that sparks the flame, you guys make learning fun and help turn this hubby into a passion. Thanks!

Iv been devoted to studying varanids for more then 25years, this fortunately has opened many doors and allowed me to meat peoples who share my passion for wild life, some of these peoples are first hand trappers, traveling all over Malaysia and Indonesia capturing and studying flora and fauna.

I was forced out of varanids because of an illness, and even though I am cured now! I feel that I took my work with varanids farther then I ever dream possible. Time for me to pass on to other projects.

All this to say, I am more then enthusiastic. Trust me to dig deep into the realm of these mini-saurus.

Rgds

I'm almost positive Urulókë was a crucigera...I'm pretty sure you've seen the pic before, but I thought I'd share for anyone else. Sadly, he didn't live very long, it's one of my great regrets that I wasn't able to get him properly de-parasitized. I also wished I'd been able to get better pictures of him. As it can be seen in the pictures, he was very young when I got him. He did live long enough so that I knew he was male.

It's really hard to see, but he does have four horns (two were broken off) and much longer spines than the lepidogaster.

I'd love to find another cricigera, as Urulókë was such an active and fun dragon. He's the only one I had that would leap all over his tank chasing food.

You would be surprized to see the armata in action! Not friendly in the least but they can be very active when it comes to food or defense!
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Marcia - FroggieB Dragons
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I'd love to see an armata in action, they're beautiful animals! I'd really like to have another crucigera though--partly because of Urulókë and partly because of all the Acanthasaura, I think they're the nicest looking (armata are gorgeous, but crucigera have such elegant markings). I'd also like to see how they really are, I know they're reportedly aggressive, and I know they're more active than capras, but having caught a glimpse, I'd like to see how the are all grown up. Urulókë seemed like he would have grown up somewhat friendly--and I know capras can have bad attitudes Enyalókë is doing fine still, but he never did like me as much as Cid did--at least he's gotten over thinking I'm going to eat him and is now convinced my fingers are food