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Anerythristic or something different????

STUART Mar 11, 2006 05:07 PM

Ok so I will go over this story and make it easy to understand.
1997 - Unrelated Farmed boa breeding by me produced this girl:

2005 breeding of the siblings to the above girl that were pastel looking but not hypo looking produced animals with various degrees of anerythrism? Or could this be something else? I had three types of boas born in this clutch so I dont know whats going on genetically. But this little one is pretty sweet!

Heres a picture with a normal sibling from the clutch

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Edited on March 12, 2006 at 16:50:01 by phwyvern.

Replies (7)

LauraV Mar 11, 2006 05:56 PM

mom is a real nice pastel. If there were three types of babies, I would guess anery (or pastel anery), pastel p-hets, and normal p-hets.
No matter what they are, they are still beautiful.
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PGoss Mar 11, 2006 06:39 PM

kinda looks like anerythrism stepped up a notch. The tail blotch rings are muted. Usually they are more black on anerys. That little anery is amazing, and so is mom. I think you have a very interesting project on your hands, and if you have too many mouths to feed, feel free to send some of those mouths my way (preferrably with the rest of the snake attached).

Phil Goss

ajfreptiles Mar 11, 2006 07:14 PM

That is pretty amazing, I hope someone that may know something can comment...I know these things happen, but does anyone have further info on it? I produced these two last year, and wondered if something was going on then...it seems either varrying degrees of hypomelanism or maybe an anerthristic gene at work.
I no longer own these animals...but I still have mom and dad...

Yours is very drastic...they look very anerthristic...Good luck and hope some info comes out. Andy


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ChrisGilbert Mar 11, 2006 07:48 PM

Anerys are common in the wild (at least compaired to other mutations). Their color allows them to still blend in to their habitat.

What may have happened is that your original farmed boa was a het, and through your line breeding you happened to pair up a pair of possible hets that proved out to be hets. And thus you have Anerys.

I would like to see pictures of the other "Anerys" in the litter.

I would breed a male (if you have one) back to the original female. If you get half (approximately) Anerys I would think it is safe to say they are Anerythristic. Then comes the task of breeding them to other known Anerys (proven) and see if you still get Anerys.

PGoss Mar 11, 2006 11:46 PM

the original snake was a het., but I don't think this is what is going on here. Many people think that for these morphs to pop up in litters, the parents need to be hets. I don't think this is the case. When the first albino boa popped up in the wild, were both the parents hets? When Joe Rollo found that T albino at the local show, were both parents hets? I don't think so. These mutations just happen sometimes. Hence the name "mutations". You can have two completely normal snakes, inside and out. Not two snakes that are hets. and the genetics were lost from being resold, etc. You can breed these snakes and it is possible that an albino may just pop out. I think these are some amazing anerys that may or not be compatible with the current anery boas. I think they may be a new strain. But no matter what I think and if I am correct or not, they are beautiful.

Phil Goss

ChrisGilbert Mar 12, 2006 02:27 PM

anomoly. However, it is less likely that three babies happened to have the genes from both of their parents mutate to cause Anerythrism.

It is much more likely that one snake had a random mutation (one allele for Anery, making it a het). This is then passed on as previously described.

Hets usually are the anomoly, and the homozygous form occurs by a coincidental match between two heterozygous animals.

Either way both senerios are theory, I however tend to lead toward this thought.

ajfreptiles Mar 12, 2006 03:49 PM

I totally agree! Andy
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