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I swear I'm not a troll and this is a legitimate question I doubt I will find the answer to in a book so here it goes...How do gtp react to music. Do you believe that loud music might make them stress out? I play drums but I wouldn't be keeping my gtp in the drum room. Do you think the reverberation would be something that might be detrimental to a healthy life? If not the drums what about listening to the stereo near their habitat? Does loud music have negative consequences? Any help would be appreciated.

Loud music or noises isn't even a good thing for people. Obviously it would not be good on an animal. I would not house the animal in a room where it would be exposed to loud noises or vibrations. To say it would stress it out would be an understatement.

Bart

Well loud music I could understand wouldn't be good but I was wondering also about the television volume or low volume situations? Are they so sensitive that even low decibel noise stresses them out?

I suppose a lot depends on the animal. Mine doesn't seem to get stressed by much. She probably wouldn't even care if you had a rock band practice next to her 24/7! On the other hand, some are pretty stressy animals. I wouldn't think low levels would bother them, although if you can feel the beat in your body, they probably can too.
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I listen to the radio on my computer and I have a few Chondro's in my computer room... However my radio is not as loud as a TV would be...

Shiloh
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Shiloh Hawkesworth
kansas
(Midwest Serpents)

So do they stay in the computer room all the time or do you move the cage around? Do you let them out?

I don't mean blasting it I mean just listening to music around them. They instinctively feel reverberations differently and I was wondering in your experience if the reverberations from a small stereo at low decibels or a television would affect them in some negative way after the long term. Like maybe they are trying to sleep during the day and can hear it and it stresses them out. I guess from what you are saying is it depends on the particular one you raise how it responds. I was also thinking if I was going to raise a gtp I wouldn't want one that was too small. I would prefer it being a few months old. I don't think I know enough to raise one from a hatchling or anything but I think after a few months of reading and set-up experiments I can raise one healthy that is not in such a delicate phase of the gtp life? I would want to see the color change but wouldn't want one that was too young.

A few months old is a hatchling for the most part. Since most breeders or reputable sellers won't sell you one until it's eaten at least 10 meals, you can pretty much count on them being around 4-5 months old when you get them. They are still tiny and delicate. If you really want something established and able to handle stuff a little better, you can go with a yearling. My first was nearly a year old. It worked great.
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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.3~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
0.1~Old black Lab~ Callie
1.0~Black fat cat~Topper
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....
www.franclycac.com

I'm not familar with the terminology yet but yeah I don't think I would want one that was too small and delicate. I would prefer to start with a yearling like you suggested. I would rather know the animal was somewhat stable and eating before having one shipped across state lines and all stressed out. Can you give me a link to the people who make the best cages for something about that size? Something simple but comfortable.

For a yearling, both Target and Walmart are a good place to find rubbermaid tubs. I'd wait until it is about 2 years old before looking at adult enclosures.

Bart

I know you know what you speak but what is the advantage of putting gtp in a small opaque rubber tub as opposed to a small aquarium that you can see through the sides? I seem to hear the mention of rubber tubs with this species and was wondering how could it be easier to monitor necessary conditions that way. Doesn't it want to move around at night. Seems like putting him in a padded cell would make him insane. I have no idea so that's why I have to ask stupid questions right now. I'm waiting to sell some stuff on e-bay so I can buy the Greg Maxwell book. Seriously I am starting to get obsessed with learning about this amazing animal but I wouldn't buy one until I am prepared. Right now I have too many questions. I think I can provide one a good life and raise one but I need to read the book and then start thinking about setup options. I envy just about everyone on this site for taking such care to raise such beautiful animals. I really have been in awe of you peeps ever since my brother mentioned I visit this site. It's amazing how much you love your babies and the passion and love is really good to see.

As stated in a previous post, do not put your needs (the desire to see it more clearly) above the needs of the animal (the need to feel secure, the need for appropriate temps, and the need for appropriate humidity). A rubbermaid tub can provide all of these needs. An aquarium will not provide any of them. You indicated that others have mentioned using tubs with this species yet you are still considering using an aquarium.

Buy Greg's book and read it. It will discuss why tubs make for appropriate housing. It also has a very interesting section regarding people who ask for advice on the care of these animals then ignore it and do there own thing, only at the expense of their animal's health.

There are people here on this forum, as well as other forums, who are sincerely interested in helping you, and others, have a positive experience keeping these animals. The trick is to be willing to take the advice of others and assume, if you are getting the same advice from several keepers, you should follow it. This is your opportunity to learn from other's past mistakes so you don't have to make them again.

Good luck,
Bart

I wasn't planning on getting an aquarium. I am just now trying to learn stuff about the species. I was surprised to here that they do better in really simplified setups.

Yeah you're right. I'm glad I can use the collective experience of others to steer me in the right direction. I wouldn't ignore the recommendations of others for aestheticism in terms of the enclosure setup. Must have been hard to raise these animals when so little was known about them in this country and there was very little information available.