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What is your favorite small terrestrial?

eatinmachine Mar 12, 2006 06:22 PM

I am just wanting to know? Tell why and I know there are going to be a lot of ring necks. If so say your second favorite too. Also what they eat, And maybe how big they get. My favorite is my texas long nose snake. He is eating F/T mice and I am lucky. They get like 2 to 2.5 to maybe 3 feet I think.
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thanks Josh

0.0.2 sandfish skinks,
0.0.1 texas long nose luckily eating mice
0.0.1 vine snake
1.1.0 turtles
0.1.0 greek tortoise
1.0.0 ball python
1.0.0 corn snake (out roaming the house but I don't know where)
1.1.0 childrens python (one needs a vet please close to 48301 or 48302 any suggestions?)
1.0.0 het for albino san diego gopher snake
0.0.1 rosehair tarantula
0.1. black and white kenyan sand boa
mice colony almost able to keep up with snakes.
and what ever lizards my vine snake hasn't eaten yet

Replies (22)

candb Mar 12, 2006 08:11 PM

Southern Ringneck snakes, get about 10-12 inches average. Eats tadpoles and worms.

My second favorite would have to be Scarlet snake, they eat eggs.

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Cameron

HerperHelmz Mar 12, 2006 11:00 PM

Ringneck Snake

Followed by the Pine Woods Snake...


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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
Updated 3/2/06

Ritas Mar 13, 2006 10:15 AM

Posted by: HerperHelmz at Sun Mar 12 23:00:53 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

Ringneck Snake

Followed by the Pine Woods Snake...

Arent pine woods incredibly difficult to keep alive ? I saw them for sale 2 years ago pet store I go to . None would eat.

HerperHelmz Mar 13, 2006 03:56 PM

I managed to keep one alive for a year.... It was harder for me than it would be for others because they usually only eat tree frogs and lizards. And I live in PA, so I had no full access to either. It did thrive though for a whole year eating lizards or frogs several times a month when I was able to get them. Unfortunately I wasn't paying much attention to it and lost it to one of the stupidest things ever, a dry shed.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
Updated 3/2/06

Ritas Mar 13, 2006 04:13 PM

Oh thats pretty good for a year I guess the key is lizards and treefrogs . I imagine if you lived in Florida you could have kept it for years.
I notice you keep lots small snakes . Your in the wrong state than PA is to cold you need to go South to anole,skink and treefrogs all year long.

HerperHelmz Mar 13, 2006 05:47 PM

Ah... I don't keep so many small snakes anymore. When all the mites and crypto and such hit my collection, the "little guys" took it the hardest. Lost all the ringneck snakes I had except 2 regal ringnecks and those were mainly the only small snakes I had last season.

But right now I don't really keep small snakes, not that I don't like them anymore... After all the disasters my collection went through, I haven't had much of an opportunity to get more small snakes into my collection. The only "small snake" I had right now is a regal ringneck snake, and at 21", it's actually one of my bigger snakes lol. 3/4 of my collection is kingsnakes.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
Updated 3/2/06

Ritas Mar 14, 2006 03:29 PM

Oh okay . I myself am looking into a longnose and a shovelnose as those 2 have always been snakes I like .

Ritas Mar 13, 2006 10:19 AM

Posted by: eatinmachine at Sun Mar 12 18:22:41 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

I am just wanting to know? Tell why and I know there are going to be a lot of ring necks. If so say your second favorite too. Also what they eat, And maybe how big they get. My favorite is my texas long nose snake. He is eating F/T mice and I am lucky. They get like 2 to 2.5 to maybe 3 feet I think.

Those snakes are so neat . I have never seen them for sale but have seen them well saw 2 at a reptile expo but both were eating pinkies scented with lizards and they were still hard to get to eat so didnt look into them.
What type of tempermeant does yours have, easy to feed, what temps do you keep him at ?
They remind me a bit of Ca kings but smaller seem "easier going" but also seem harder to keep.

Thanks

eatinmachine Mar 13, 2006 04:01 PM

You asked "Those snakes are so neat . I have never seen them for sale but have seen them well saw 2 at a reptile expo but both were eating pinkies scented with lizards and they were still hard to get to eat so didnt look into them.
What type of tempermeant does yours have, easy to feed, what temps do you keep him at ?
They remind me a bit of Ca kings but smaller seem "easier going" but also seem harder to keep."

I have seen about 6 that wouldn't eat mice but would eat lizards. I saw this little guy with one of my favorite guys at a reptile show and he was eating live mice and after a few months of research and him still being there, I bought him. He is O.K as far as tempermant he will sit in my hand for about ten minutes and then just starts to slowly slither around. 1 time he sat in the arm of my T-shirt for about 2 hours while I was reading. I don't hold my animals a lot though so this is all I know about him. I know he can get defensive when cornered in his feeding container as he will rattle his tail which is pretty sweet. He eats a large pink a week F/T and I just put him in his feeding container and come back later and it is gone. I always have to clean his feeding container as he leaves mouse guts everywhere (must be the way he eats). One time he only ate half of a fuzzy that was a little big for him. He is a great eater and hasn't missed a meal except in shed. Temps I haven't measured lately but he uses both sides but I will check soon and get back to you. I have only held a cal king so don't know anything really about them. They are a lot smaller than a cal king. I don't know about harder to keep because mine is easy to care for a shoebox with 1 inch or maybe more of carefresh at the bottom, a toilet paper tube, and two VERY small boxes, and a small water bowl. He hides usually by digging I don't even know if he likes hides much but he will use them once in a while. Digs a lot as much as my kenyan sand. I am sure if he was an only or one of two snakes he would be even better. I have read that if you let one go two weeks without food and then feed it a mouse it will go to town but I am not sure. I am sure that if they weren't lousy feeders they would be much more popular. I hope this helps and any more questions feel free to ask.
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thanks Josh

0.0.2 sandfish skinks,
0.0.1 texas long nose luckily eating mice
0.0.1 vine snake
1.1.0 turtles
0.1.0 greek tortoise
1.0.0 ball python
1.0.0 corn snake (out roaming the house but I don't know where)
1.1.0 childrens python (one needs a vet please close to 48301 or 48302 any suggestions?)
1.0.0 het for albino san diego gopher snake
0.0.1 rosehair tarantula
0.1. black and white kenyan sand boa
mice colony almost able to keep up with snakes.
and what ever lizards my vine snake hasn't eaten yet

Ritas Mar 13, 2006 04:17 PM

Thanks for the info thats the problem the feeding thats why I opted not to get one but like the look a lot and not a big snake not small either at 3.5 feet.

I am suprised they dig so much interesting. The two I saw looked great but not predictable eaters. The guy was honest he later sold them as lizard eaters and sometimes scented pinkies here in the classifieds.

eatinmachine Mar 13, 2006 05:13 PM

3.5 is like the maximum they are usually more like 2.5 feet. I like honest guys. They are very interesting especially to watch at night. They have a almost upturned nose and it is perfect for diggin. When I get my digital (been happening for over a year now) I will post lots of pix believe me.
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thanks Josh

0.0.2 sandfish skinks,
0.0.1 texas long nose luckily eating mice
0.0.1 vine snake
1.1.0 turtles
0.1.0 greek tortoise
1.0.0 ball python
1.0.0 corn snake (out roaming the house but I don't know where)
1.1.0 childrens python (one needs a vet please close to 48301 or 48302 any suggestions?)
1.0.0 het for albino san diego gopher snake
0.0.1 rosehair tarantula
0.1. black and white kenyan sand boa
mice colony almost able to keep up with snakes.
and what ever lizards my vine snake hasn't eaten yet

eatinmachine Mar 14, 2006 06:54 PM

I am holding him right now and he is fine. Once in a while he jumps a little but is fine a second little. Otherwise he is just using me as a climb and is sitting in my fingers and up my arm. A very nice to hold snake. I got the temps too they are 93 on the warm side at the bottom of the carefresh and 73 at the bottom of the substrate on the cool side. If you see one again if I were you I would pick it up. My favorite part is that he won't get big and always has perfect sheds and is a great eater. If I can pick one up to make a pair I will. As long as it is eating I think I will be able to get it to rodents by giving it scented and a lizard. If I breed these guys I am almost sure babies will need geckos or something so I will give them some house geckos. If I got them on mice I think a captive bred texas long nose on f/t pinks would be really nice. Do you agree. sorry I am rambling.
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thanks Josh

0.0.2 sandfish skinks,
0.0.1 texas long nose luckily eating mice
0.0.1 vine snake
1.1.0 turtles
0.1.0 greek tortoise
1.0.0 ball python
1.0.0 corn snake (out roaming the house but I don't know where)
1.1.0 childrens python (one needs a vet please close to 48301 or 48302 any suggestions?)
1.0.0 het for albino san diego gopher snake
0.0.1 rosehair tarantula
0.1. black and white kenyan sand boa
mice colony almost able to keep up with snakes.
and what ever lizards my vine snake hasn't eaten yet

Ritas Mar 15, 2006 10:50 AM

oh yes if you bred them that would be great as you rarely see them for sale ESP if you got them on pinkies that would be great.
I am going to look again at the next reptile show I am going to for them but only want one or a pair if eating pinkies .
I just saw a picture of one in the photo gallery -

http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/index.php?photo=267274&user=99504

I read they come in two color types . I like both types . thanks for the temperature . I intend to do same hot area in 90s lower in mid 70s.
Sometimes I see them for sale in the classifieds in the summer but they are adults or semi adults and lizard eaters which are wild caught.

Rita

eatinmachine Mar 15, 2006 04:39 PM

Yes they do come in two color forms one is absent of red if I remember correctly. I like reds so I like mine. All the ones my dealer had were babies but another guy the same month I got mine was selling two that ate anoles. They were full grown. I consider myself lucky. But I think these guys should be more popular in the pet trade, they deserve it. What reptile show do you go to?
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thanks Josh

0.0.2 sandfish skinks,
0.0.1 texas long nose luckily eating mice
0.0.1 vine snake
1.1.0 turtles
0.1.0 greek tortoise
1.0.0 ball python
1.0.0 corn snake (out roaming the house but I don't know where)
1.1.0 childrens python (one needs a vet please close to 48301 or 48302 any suggestions?)
1.0.0 het for albino san diego gopher snake
0.0.1 rosehair tarantula
0.1. black and white kenyan sand boa
mice colony almost able to keep up with snakes.
and what ever lizards my vine snake hasn't eaten yet

Ritas Mar 15, 2006 04:55 PM

I guess because most are wild caught and few are captive bred they arent popular which is good .
The reptile show I went to was last year in Long Island it was at some hotel . It was pretty big mostly common snakes kings,milks ,corns ball pythons the average stuff .
The only longnose there ate lizards and the dealer again was honest he said maybe scented as one did eat scented but wasnt reliable eater unless lizards.

I like "smallish" native snakes . pet store I go to has shovelnose snakes and thats one I intend to get soon as they have them again soon . Longnose I will look around for a pinkie eater that doesnt eat scented.
I like the red color type to like that picture . It would be great if you bred yours . I read it has been done .

Rita

eatinmachine Mar 15, 2006 05:19 PM

I think I remember something about them being bred but it gave no information. DO you know where you saw it say about these guys being bred? I am loving my guy I am just constantly wondering if I would be able to get babies onto pinks.
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thanks Josh

0.0.2 sandfish skinks,
0.0.1 texas long nose luckily eating mice
0.0.1 vine snake
1.1.0 turtles
0.1.0 greek tortoise
1.0.0 ball python
1.0.0 corn snake
1.1.0 childrens python (one needs a vet please close to 48301 or 48302 any suggestions?)
1.0.0 het for albino san diego gopher snake
0.0.1 rosehair tarantula
0.1. black and white kenyan sand boa
mice colony almost able to keep up with snakes.
and what ever lizards my vine snake hasn't eaten yet

aliceinwl Mar 15, 2006 09:14 PM

Dan aka Oxyrhopus bred his last year: http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=867179,867179

-Alice

eatinmachine Mar 16, 2006 03:06 PM

I have a longnose and am going to pick up another one soon (hopefully I can find one easily) to make a pair. I went to your post that thankfully the person above me found thanks so much. I want to know how you bred your longnoses and what temps you incubated at. Were your babies large enough to take day old pinks? If so did you try any as a first meal to see if any would eat it? I if think of another question I hope it wouldn't bother you for me to ask.
Thanks Josh
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thanks Josh

0.0.2 sandfish skinks,
0.0.1 texas long nose luckily eating mice
0.0.1 vine snake
1.1.0 turtles
0.1.0 greek tortoise
1.0.0 ball python
1.0.0 corn snake
1.1.0 childrens python (one needs a vet please close to 48301 or 48302 any suggestions?)
1.0.0 het for albino san diego gopher snake
0.0.1 rosehair tarantula
0.1. black and white kenyan sand boa
mice colony almost able to keep up with snakes.
and what ever lizards my vine snake hasn't eaten yet

Oxyrhopus Mar 17, 2006 11:57 AM

Actually the mother was a gravid specimen I picked up at a wholesaler and the eggs were incubated at about 85 degrees. The babies were all large enough to eat a day-old pinks, although they would not take pinks without lizard scenting. One baby was small and took young anoles. Its just a matter of getting them to settle in and eat lizards and then pinks scented with an anole and they turn to unscented pinks in a month or so.

Dan

Rich G.cascabel Mar 18, 2006 06:06 PM

closely followed by shovelnose, sand and ground snakes.

Rich G.cascabel Mar 18, 2006 06:07 PM

from same locality

Jeff Hardwick Mar 22, 2006 08:46 PM

Nice fat and healthy, a tri-color lovers dream. Jeff

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