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can someone tell me......

jimfmcdonald Mar 13, 2006 08:18 PM

were do lemon lavender cal-kings come from? and if I breed a lemon lav to a lemon lav what will it produce? more lemon lavs?
and if I breed a male lemon lav to a female albino cal king what will it produce? and any pics of what they will produce would be GREAT as well. thanks.

JIM

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Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 08:31 PM

Lavender x Lavender will produce 100% of the same. That is the recessive part. Your pattern is not recessive.

Breeding a Lavender x Albino will produce normal looking cal kings that are double hets (lavender & albino). I mean normal by saying that if you breed a banded Lavender x a banded Albino your babies will all be banded double hets. When I bred this combo I used a male banded Lavender x an aberrant Albino High White.

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Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 08:33 PM

Here are the parents.

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Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 08:37 PM

They will be breeding this year.

Here is the male that is a double het (lavender & albino) and is aberrant because his mother was the aberrant Albino High White.

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Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 08:38 PM

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Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 08:40 PM

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Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 08:41 PM

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jimfmcdonald Mar 13, 2006 08:39 PM

ok so what about the first part? how do you make a lavender? were did they come from? what bred to what ?

thanks.

JIM

Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 08:44 PM

A naturally occuring single recessive gene. It was not made by combining anything.

I do not know the history of when the first one occured, but they have been around for quite awhile.

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jimfmcdonald Mar 13, 2006 09:12 PM

why do mine look like this? how did they get this way? they were sold to me as lemon lavender cal kings. so were did the lemon come from?

thanks

JIM

Kerby... Mar 13, 2006 10:00 PM

At least it doesn't appear to be by the pic. I know pics can be misleading. Looks like a hybrid.

Lavenders look different depending upon the base color before the lavender gene was introduced.

Kerby...

ZFelicien Mar 13, 2006 10:14 PM

Looks like u have some Kings with a little Fl. king in their genetics... esp. the 2nd one!

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foxturtle Mar 13, 2006 11:46 PM

I had almost completely forgotten those existed. Lemon kings were a cross between an albino Cal king and a normal Florida king. Then eventually bred back to Florida kings to make albinos that looked more like Florida kings. I believe Andy Barr coined the name "Lemon kings" but I could be mistaken. This might be what you have... the snake in the bottom pic really looks like its got a lot of Florida king in it.

Horridus Mar 14, 2006 09:09 AM

foxturtle is correct, they were also used to make the Jurassic Milks 25% Amel California X 25% Florida King X 50% Honduran Milk... rough percentages, They look to me as though they are lemon kings (cali x floridana) crossed with a Lavender California possibly. The higher percentage of california in that backcross would produce animals very similar to pure cali amels as well as some "floridanaish" animals like the one in the bottom photo.....

Horridus

JETZEN Mar 14, 2006 09:47 PM

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