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To UVB or not to UVB

nymph Mar 14, 2006 11:05 AM

That is the question. I have heard conflicting info on this. What does everyone here do??

Replies (15)

WillHayward Mar 14, 2006 11:10 AM

It's an absolute nessescary.
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CANADIAN CHAMELEONS

dianedfisher Mar 14, 2006 12:05 PM

I would NEVER consider keeping a diurnal reptile without a UVB light. I wish I lived somewhere where I could provide filtered, natural sunlight more often. Diane
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dianedfisher@yahoo.com

My 3 CWD-Avanyu, Tripod and Drago

Carlton Mar 14, 2006 12:26 PM

There are a few people who don't use it, but they've developed a very complicated supplement regime instead. But, most keepers swear by a UV light, and as it can't hurt the cham and is a safe way to help them metabolize vitamins and calcium (supplements can be tricky), it is best. If your cham got outdoors in direct sunlight every day maybe its not needed. The light also helps the live plants in the cage too.

eric adrignola Mar 14, 2006 01:08 PM

Carlton is 100% right. It IS benificial, in more ways than one. It
certainly can't hurt the chameleon to have moderate to low levels of
UVB, so why not provide some? The least it will do is cut the amount
of artificial supplementation you NEED to give. Reducing the amount of
artificial supplementation used ia always good - more room for error,
less chance of making a mistake.

However, don't make the "other"mistake, now becoming more and
more common: use only UVB, and NO artificial D3.

Unless they're gettign sunlight, they shoudl also get dietary D3. I like to
cut repcal with minerall, so they get the trace minerals, and a lower
concentration of D3 than with rep cal alone.

nymph Mar 14, 2006 01:17 PM

What is best to use for UVB????

dcmander Mar 14, 2006 01:33 PM

Zoomed ReptiSun 5.0/10.0 florescent bulb
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1.0 Sunburst Veiled Chameleon -- Dexter
1 year old

nymph Mar 14, 2006 01:41 PM

Is there anything else?? Only because I have a hard time finding these?? If not I can just order extras online. Thanks

dcmander Mar 14, 2006 03:12 PM

Well that is the brand most keepers use. It is proven and is the only thing I ever see suggested.

I've heard that the UV coil bulbs are NOT sufficient for UVB.

The only thing better than the ReptiSuns is natural sunlight


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1.0 Sunburst Veiled Chameleon -- Dexter
1 year old

dcmander Mar 14, 2006 03:13 PM

whoops, didn't mean to post that second picture =P

It really stinks you can't edit/delete your posts. KS should move to another kind of message board (forgot the name right now).
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1.0 Sunburst Veiled Chameleon -- Dexter
1 year old

nymph Mar 14, 2006 03:16 PM

Thanks. It's ok, I love pics!! Anyway, if you notice a few posts down I posted some pics, and for some reason it uploaded mine without the title, so I posted so many because I didn't know which one was Nigel. Anyway, I fixed them, but I agree something where we could edit our posts would be great!!
Here is the most recent pic of Nigel. He is getting a girlfriend tomorrow.

mr-zikit Mar 14, 2006 05:14 PM

erm.....do they have a srew in UVB bulb other than the normal fluorescent lamp ??

Carlton Mar 14, 2006 08:23 PM

Not under the ReptiSun name. There are incandescent bulbs that emit UVB and A, but I have not used them. The chams I've had recently are montane and don't want the extreme heat these bulbs give off. I use ReptiSuns exclusively. They don't burn, explode, simply give out, and are generally tougher.

dianedfisher Mar 15, 2006 07:17 AM

yes, Zoo-med (mfg. of Reptisun bulbs)DOES make a Reptisun 10.0 Compact fluorescent bulb which screws into a regular dome lamp. I use them for my chameleon set-ups. the problem with them is, unless the bulb is positioned horizontally, the UVB emission is greatly reduced. Big Apple Herp solved this problem by designing a stainless steel fixture with either 2 or 3 ceramic fittings in it. One of the fitting allows the compact fluorescent bulb to be installed horizontally and the other(s) will accomodate a ceramic emitter or incandescent basking spot. Diane
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dianedfisher@yahoo.com

My 3 CWD-Avanyu, Tripod and Drago

kinyonga Mar 14, 2006 11:07 PM

In most cases, I would say UVB is necessary/useful, but there have been some people that have had success with less than normally recommended or even with no UVB used. In some of the cases dusting has still been done.

Here is one site that talks about it...
http://www.chameleonnews.com/interviewfer.html
"Larry Talent at Oklahoma State University successfully raised multiple generations of panther chameleons by giving his animals carefully measured doses of vitamin D3 with no UVB and I have no doubt that other breeders have figured out effective doses with veiled and other chameleon species."

"I eventually gave them no UVB at all and got some successful reproduction of wild-caughts with low UVB and very little dusting."

"Continuous strong UVB irradiance, that a lizard cannot escape, can cause skin damage and eventually malignant tumors, so that is why a gradient is important."

kriswaters Mar 15, 2006 09:40 PM

After reading all of the posts, I had to get up and look! I have a repti-sun 10 UVB. It is a "screw in" type, but not coiled. Rather "looped".

Things seem fine....Squig is growing and his crest (crown, veil....) looks strong and tall.

I do know that they need to be replaced every 6 months to continue to be effective!

Kris
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