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hey everyone, i have a male het alb. tiger and a female het alb. and i really wanted to breed them, but i was woundering how had is it to sell the babys. I i would post them in the classified, but i dont want to end up with 40 baby retics tha i cant sell. i am not really doing it for the money so i would be selling them fairly cheap, but like i said i dont want tobe stuck with a bunch of baby snakes. any advice on where to sell them or if the babys will sell in the KS classified

I have no doubt that you would eventually sell all of them if you put a cheap enough price on them. But the problem is, they don't always fall into the hands of responsible keepers. Retics require alot of space to properly house them and they are by no means a 'beginner' snake. Plus the food bill isn't cheap. Alot of people buy these snakes not realizing the responsibility they have taken on, or just not bothering to plan ahead. And once their snake reaches 10 or 12 feet in length they can no longer care for it, and the outcome for the snake usually isn't good.

This is just as true for the more expensive retic morphs. Some people have more money then brains. I don't want to discourage you from breeding but perhaps go with a smaller, easier to care for, species that will be more likely to find a good home.

Don't get me wrong I love retics, they are amazing and beautiful snakes. But right now the market is flooded with them and there are alot of retics out there not receiving the care that they deserve. Just my thoughts. Take care everyone,

Mike

yeah very good point. i have breed ball pythons and boas in the past, and i know what you are talking about there are alot of people who just buy thinks on impulse, and buying a retic or a burm on impulse could end up very bad for the snake.

In my opinion you should not sell them "really cheap" this is the reason prices get driven down. You may not be in it for the money but plenty are and when you are just doing it because you want to that makes it bad for the people who are doing it for the money or even for a living. Just keep that in mind. Keep your prices at market price so everyone wins. just my 2 cents
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Greg

yeah i thought of that, mabey really cheap wasn't the best way to say it. i would most likely put them at market price and then drop if i was having trouble getting ride of teh animals. thanks you, you did bring up a good point.

Personally, after hearing you say something about lowering your price "if I can't get rid of them" appalls me. If your number ONE priority is not to find responsible, decent homes for each and every baby you produce, then you have no business breeding these. Anyone that produces these and quite frankly any and every species of reptile has a personal responsibility to ensure that the babies they produce don't end up abandoned, neglected or killed. Please,. if you are going to breed anything go into it with a mindset to respect this responsibility so that you don't help to destroy this hobby and industry through carlessness and total abandon for the wellbeing of the animals you produce.
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David Beauchemin
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i know what you mean, but there is no way to screen everyone one who buys animal, Particularly in a classified ad. nothing against you, but i am sure you have sold many animals unknowingly to irresponsable owners. im not trying to start a fight here but its true. By saying i will lower the price to get rid of them, i dont mean throw them away. there are many responsible owners our there who know what they are doing, but they dont have the money to invest in a $1000 snake. This would be a perfect oppurtunity. no doubt some snakes would end up in the hands of bad keepers, but there is no way of stopping that. I can, Bob Clark cant, and neither can you. it can simple be prevented to an extent, and i plan to do my best.

That's not true at all. I personally take great lengths to sell my offspring only to people who genuinely love the animals or to serious, dedicated breeders that truly value the animals not just as an investment. I do not accomodate impulse buyers that want a cool snake to impress their friends or any less than knowledgable or responsible people. I get to know each and every customer personally over time and I take lengths to keep in touch and maintain a good friendship if possible. With me it is not about making a buck. It is about supplying healthy, tame, quality snakes to good, honest herpers that are dedicated to the hobby. It is also about getting to know good people in the hobby/business and maintaining those relationships. Long after the sale is completed I am available night and day via phone or email to talk for hours on end if need be whether the customer needs me for information or just to shoot the breeze. No... there are certainly different ways of conducting business and running one's show. No... I don't expect every breeder to conduct their business exactly like I do, but there are more conscientious ways of conducting ones business and less conscientious ways. All I urge is that one choose the latter for the sake of the hobby and for the sake of the animals. To do the most we can do. Because each any every little life we bring into the world is equally important, regardless of its market value.
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David Beauchemin
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Wow. It is good to knowthat there are still people out there like you. i by now means meant ot disrespect you, i was simple trying to say this it is very hary to monitor every snake sold. i am very glad you have replied to my questions.

Thanks. But maybe I got a little too worked up there. I am not usually outspoken about any particular subject pertaining to the hobby or business but when a person sees these reptiles as only a commodity it tends to get my dander up a bit. If one sees them only as a sellable commodity then there is no respect for the animals. If there is no respect for the animals then they surely will be the factor in the mix that suffers. By this I am not implying that I think you see them this way. Perhaps I misread you initially.

To answer your original question... It is really quite easy to find buyers for your babies if you offer incentives and services that other breeders/dealers don't. Not trying to fit in a plug for our business here but what we do makes for a good example: We offer a 4 month unconditional guarantee on every animal we produce. Thise is many months beyond what most breeders offer in terms of a guarantee. Most sellers offer live arrival at best. Whether buyers are forking out 200 or 20,000 they like this solid guarantee security in their purchase. We also offer the industry's only 100% buy back, lifetime trade in policy. This offers our customers the opportunity to buy a large species with the confidence that if it gets to be too much for them that they have a place it can immediately go to and their investment capital is still intact. We also offer 24/7 customer support on care and breeding to all out customers. There are many other things exclusive to us but this should give you just a small idea of what one can do that can set themselves apart from the many run of the mill boid breeders and brokers that simply make their sales and move on.

Hope this helps you in some way to better market your future offspring. Best of luck to you in your breeding and marketing.
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David Beauchemin
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no i didnt take any offence toward your comments, and i think it is good you get a little defencive about mistreating animals. you have some really great policies and there is no doubt in my mind that this is a major factor as of why you have become successful.