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Thought you would all enjoy some pics!

We have Frank Martin to thank for these Amazing looking animals!

I can't stop thinking what a Anery in black and white will look like when the JAG runs through it!!!!

I say it will be the talk of the town!

These are Jaguars!!

Enjoy!

Andy Federico - AJF Reptiles

And a little ORANGASM to top it off!

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For those who may have missed the SUPER JAGS!!!!!!

Here they are again!!

Can you tell I'm excited to be working with this project.....

Enjoy Andy

These Orangsams are wonderful!

Andy

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They will be on the way very soon!!!!

I will be breeding this Hypo Jag to that big girl I posted!!!!

2 Co-dom traits in one amazing litter!! Not only that but it will produce the Super Jags as well!

How about seeing the first Super Hypo Jag!!!! Right here at my place!!!

Stay tuned!

Andy

You new I would not leave this girl out!

ORANGASM!

I got her too! I can't wait to see my hypos bred to this girl! It should cause a major power draw across the globe!!!!

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Would you or Frank please give us a little more background on them? Other than the inverse striping, which is evidently intensified in the super form, what are the defining characteristics of the Jaguar and Super Jag forms? Is there a coloration trait as well, like in jungles?

The neo pics of the supers remind me very much of tiger boas, which I do not seem to hear much about anymore. Here is a pic of a nice aberrant boa I picked up this year.

**Fingers crossed he is genetic.**

Once again, awesome animals! Thanks for sharing them, and best wishes for all the future projects with them!

Jesse

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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

I have very limited knowledge about the history of them....I will save that for Frank....

But as for the genetics....they are Co-dom.

You breed these to a normal boa and you will get approx. half the litter will be reverse tail stripes and the look is in my opinion very much that of a Jungle....High contrast...Bright...Block saddles...ect....

But when bred together they produce the Super JAG!

Further info on them would be better to come from Frank Martin...He has been consistantly producing these for years.

Now they are being Unveiled!

Hope this helps, Andy

Would you or Frank please give us a little more background on them? Other than the inverse striping, which is evidently intensified in the super form, what are the defining characteristics of the Jaguar and Super Jag forms? Is there a coloration trait as well, like in jungles?

The neo pics of the supers remind me very much of tiger boas, which I do not seem to hear much about anymore. Here is a pic of a nice aberrant boa I picked up this year.

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those are awsome. I can't wait until you breed your line of hypos to the jag

Real cool
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Now that I've figured out the jungle vs aberrant scenerio, I need help with this one. What is the difference between a reverse stripe (even a full body reverse stripe) and a jag? Is it just the way the gene is passed? The jag reverse stripe is dominant, while the regular reverse stripe is either line-bred or acts more like the kahl stripe?

And did you say your hypo was a HypoJag? If so, I didn't notice the reverse stripe...or does the reverse stripe have nothing to do with it?

I'm rather lost on this one.
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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

I have seen reverse stripes before as many of us have...but these are reproducable!!!

You know you will be getting this look when you breed these animals....
I do not fully understand how this is working in the Hypo either....but the Hypo form is very different...and although I cannot photograph it well...there are actually the looks of two seperate patterns on the Hypo.. Almost like shadows under the red saddles....makes the whole animal look sort of blurry or two toned...The Hypo is loaded with purple color as well... as he matures I will try and get better pics of him.

This will be a fantastic new project for sure.

I guess I am looking forward to a black and white Anery with racing stripes!

Hope this helps, Andy

Now that I've figured out the jungle vs aberrant scenerio, I need help with this one. What is the difference between a reverse stripe (even a full body reverse stripe) and a jag? Is it just the way the gene is passed? The jag reverse stripe is dominant, while the regular reverse stripe is either line-bred or acts more like the kahl stripe?

And did you say your hypo was a HypoJag? If so, I didn't notice the reverse stripe...or does the reverse stripe have nothing to do with it?

I'm rather lost on this one.
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Is the full body reverse stripe then the Super form? If so, has one of those already been bred to a normal (not a sibling/parent) and produced all reverse stripe babies? Just trying to get a better handle on it.

Is there a way to tell a Jag from a reverse stripe at a glance?

Although I am not partial to the reverse stripe, as I like more pattern not less; I don't like being ignorant of something; I'd rather learn.

Thank you for taking the time to explain it to me.
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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

Hello Laura, Frank Martin will be the one to better explain more than I have already done...

I am just so happy to be working with these animals...I had to post more pics! Great questions Laura! Take care, Andy
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Those are great looking boas first off. Along with some of the other people who have posted I have had the same questions. I noticed when he posted his pictures of the litter with supers in it (http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1031042,1031042) that a lot of people asked about the trait but Frank never commented on them. Please be patient with us. Just like any other morph, this will surely go through some scrutiny before it is accepted and understood. My biggest questions are: how have the genetics behind the trait been proven? Can we see pics of the parents, grandparents, etc? What does the term Jaguar define(color, pattern, etc.)?
I'm sure a lot of work has gone into this project. Thanks. I think it's cool to see some real thinking going on in the hobby to improve the animals and diversity.

Rich