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I hope I can get this female up to size, now weighing in at 265grams I think she might be able to later in the year. I decided to take her outdoors, probably her first time ever.
Just wanted to share!

And another!

And yet another stunner

Thanks for sharing

Good luck with all your pinner projects!

Tim

Third Eye

Thanks Tim, she looks alot like yours, think there related?

Maybe. I produced mine from Terry Dunham stock.

Tim

Third Eye

Is that a pic of your "het" pinner or "het" hypo clutch? If so were any of them "good" pinners and did you breed her to a hypo or just an average normal?

That's a clutch of hets from last year. I haven't bred back any het offspring to the father, but will probably do so next yeat.

Tim

I bred one of Tim's het-hypo females to one of my males that has pretty much normal bands and got this girl...

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Paul Weaver
Carolina Herps

I see! Your pic is of a pinner hypo male and you bred him to a normal female, producing normal looking het hypos. None of which are pinners. So in theory judging from the neonate Paul posted is they are in fact het for pinner hypos. I am still trying to figure out if "pinner" pattern is recesive, co-dom, or dom. I know their pattern is highly variable though.
Thanks

Pinbanded is not a simple recessive genetic trait like hypomelanism. I have found that pattern variations are inheritable, though not in a predictable way. Things like oreo Pueblans don't always breed true, even when crossing oreo X oreo. I'd imagine pinbanded works the same way.

Some friends have produced some very freaky striped/aberrant hondos, and these don't usually make aberrant offspring, even when bred to siblings.

Tim

Interesting, I thought the striped hondos Bailey produces are the only true recessive striped mutation. Every thing else is abberent just some look striped.