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Could have been better.
Egg # 1= Normal Female.
Egg # 2= Pastel Male
Egg # 3= Normal Male
Egg # 4= Twins Normal Female and Pastel unfortunately dead in the egg.

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Adrian
AFR
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>>Could have been better.
>>Egg # 1= Normal Female.
>>Egg # 2= Pastel Male
>>Egg # 3= Normal Male
>>Egg # 4= Twins Normal Female and Pastel unfortunately dead in the egg.

I'd say that having 2 out of 3 pastels is pretty good odds! 2/4 is what you would expect...Sad about the dead ones.
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Jeremy Conrad
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Jeremy, Out of 4 eggs I ended up with 3 normals and 1 Pastel.
The other Pastel that was a twin was dead in the egg.
The one Pastel is a male, I would have liked a female Pastel better.
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Adrian
AFR
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Sorry to hear about your lose. I was surprised to hear that the twins were not identical...instead one being normal and the other being pastel. Just curious, but how did that happen? I would assume that one sperm fertilized one egg and both babies would share the same DNA. Is it possible that crossing over occured and both pastel genes traveled to on snake and both normal genes travel to the other snake? The reason that I'm curious that if that is possible is due to how light colored the pastel that did not survive is and the fact that it shared an egg with a normal. Would somebody that has a bit more experiance than I do please explain this to me?

Thanks,

W. Smith

I know with humans and most animals, twins happen in two ways. Either two ova are released and get fertilized by the father, hence producing fracternal twins (I think it's spelled that way) or a single ova (egg) is fertilizes then splits into two separate ovum producing identical twins. In the case of the snake, probably two ovum's were encased in the same egg shell somehow and thus why the babies were different, fracternal twins.

Too bad they died though, would have been to have them grow up healthy. Unless you meant only the pastal died by the normal one survived.
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PHLdyPayne

I think Mark Mandic also had twins where one was normal and one was a Pastel.
In my case the Pastel did look like a Super Pastel so I'm not sure what exactly happened.
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Adrian
AFR
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I had a bad first clutch yesterday////.......worst batch of my career.......new female...yard sale find to a pastel.......9 eggs.....1 good.......1 good that sprung a leak......wow....and one with a dark yellow hard spot on top that's like 2 x 1 inches across ...and 6 duds........I may get one egg to hatch and it will more than likely be a male normal.......

....it will get better.......

good luck........
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