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I was wondering if anyone thinks this girl is a HRA (Het Red Axanthic) I picked her up from a pet store here locally in Columbus Ohio about a year ago and always thought she was definatley different so I looked at Jons (John Dvoretz Nextworld Exotics) Hunters Guide and she does have all the traits heres a link to the page http://www.nextworldexotics.com/hghra.htm
Please look at it if not familiar and post your opinions.

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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

Here is a few more pics and the link to the Hunters Guide
www.nextworldexotics.com/hghra.htm
Thanks

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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

I think she looks a great deal like my normal, but I'm not a morph expert.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

I vote nice normal.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.42.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.1 Lizard of unknown origin

The only way you could say she is a "Het Red Axanthic" is if one of the following happend;

a) You bought her from a proven line

b) If you bred her to a proven line or back to one of her offspring and produced a Red Axanthic

Until either of the above are done you cannot say she is a "het Red Axanthic".

If you were to ask me I'd say that she looks like a nice black back but she doesn't look like a Het Red Axanthic to me.

Regards,
Corey Woods
Corey Woods Reptile

Well I want to say thank you to those of you that replied
Damian
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Damian Macioce
www.strongholdreptiles.com

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you think????

She is quite a nice looking black back ball python. I hope she proves out for you, there is always hope.

You have a great family, and I like your site

Best of luck ...

Snakebytes

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I was ROTFLMAO I loved it so much
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Thanks havic!!! I'm not sure who's posting, Brian and/or Chrissy, so I figure havic covers you both

I came across that pic a few years ago and I had to have it, so I loaded it up on my computer and then onto my site. I love that cat. I can picture my cat doing that when he has the house to himself

With 5 cats you guys must be cat lovers too

Any chance of you guys posting some pics of your frogs?? You do great pics of your snakes, and I'd love to see your frogs and cats too!!

Snakebytes

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lol it is Brian, Chrissy is at work. So now you I need to get more pics of her frogs. We only have 1 uploaded right now. We have some good pics of the cats in the computer that I will have to find but here is one of the WTF (Trevor)

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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

He is so cute, I love him

Great pic, and thanks so much for posting it, sorry my reply is so late ... I've been doing rodent work

Snakebytes

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That is ok I had to do a little rodent work too. Chrissy just called and wanted me to come to the store to pick up a male dumbo to add new blood to our rat project. I might post some cat pics later when I can take some moor. I ried to up load a couple to photobucket but they are large so I did not post them here but here is one
link
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

What a gorgeous cat ... and great photography!!

Have you taken photography lessons? Your pictures are terrific!!

I love Dumbos ... I added them to my rodent colonies 5 years ago and ever since it has made it so difficult to feed off the cute rats at feeding time. At one point I had around 30 something pet rats ... all they have to do is give me that cute look and that's it ... they go in the pet holding pen

Snakebytes

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LOL ok you are starting to give me an ego lol. no realy I have not taken any leasons and I think that I have so much more to learn. And thank you for the compliment. The 2 cats you saw were brothers their is 1 more brother all black and the biggest and 1 sister all black as well. then their is the one that made them all moma kitty and she is all black as well. Again Thank You
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

That's pretty cool getting all those black cats from Mommy cat ... what did the father cat look like?

I had a black cat and she never gave birth to any black cats ... just grey, grey and white, and one came out siamese. The vet said she probably had siamese in her. The father was grey and white.

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We dont know what the father looked like. momma kitty was a rescue and her pregnacy was an accident she esscaped throw an open window one week befor her appointment to have her fixed and I dont belive in abortion for myself why would I do that to my cat so I let her have the litter then got them all fixed and I couldnt let the kittens go after that.
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Chrissy, you are definitely an animal lover ...
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and I dont belive in abortion for myself

Earlier in the thread, Brian said that he was writing here. I was stuck thinking Brian was writing, and when I read that statement, the thought of a guy being pregnant nearly made me faint. I couldn't have read that whole sentence worse if I'd tried. LOL There's a reason why one should read things twice before coming to conclusions.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

couldnt stop laughing bill this is both of us now that was to funny maybe chrissy should get her own screen name now.
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Every summer we have Gray Tree Frogs in the backyard ... I took some pics of one of them last year, he was so sweet, he just sat there on the table and let me take a million pics of him ...

Snakebytes Gallery

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That's a neat picture. We have green tree frogs here in Louisiana. I used to be in an apartment next to a field, and I came home one night to find about 20 of them around my front door. Twenty was very unusual, but two or three a night was normal. I loved seeing them, and they were very calm. If one was sitting on the front door, I could open the door and come and go as I pleased without them moving. They'd just ride the door on its arc into the apartment and ride it back out when I closed it again. The Mediterranean Geckos on the other hand would jump off the door and be all over the place.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

That little frog was pretty calm too. He sat still for me for ages. At night they sit and do their mating calls. For such little frogs they are pretty loud.

Were you effected by hurricane Katrina last year? There are a lot of good people in the reptile business down there in LA. Do you know K&N Reptiles down in New Orleans ?

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Hurricane Katrina hit our area, but we weren't hit all that hard. I lost power around eight or nine o'clock that Monday morning and didn't have power again until about five-thirty Tuesday afternoon. There were shingles lying around my property, but I couldn't find any that had come off my roof. At Thanksgiving, my folks found a stain along the ceiling of my guest bedroom. I suspect that the wind from Hurricane Rita blew water through the roof peak vent. Katrina was a dry storm here because we were on the west side. That last little jog to the east saved our area. Constant winds were around 30 to 40 here with gusts to 70 or 80. Some trees came down on our street, and all of the mailboxes along one stretch were dented on the north side.

I've been here four years and a couple of months and have been in my house for four years in May. The wet hurricanes fill my yard about two-thirds full of water. Hurricane Rita did that a few weeks after Katrina came through. We had a couple of them in 2002 that did the same.

Maybe my biggest damage from Hurricane Katrina is coming now. They've put 50 FEMA trailers within half a mile of my house. So far, the people living there haven't started roaming the neighborhoods causing trouble, but while property values are still very high in the rest of the area, I've lost about forty percent of the value of my house. Losing that value wouldn't be a big problem if I didn't want to sell, but if these people cause trouble, I'll want to move.

I didn't buy my first snake until October, so I haven't had the experience of trying to keep snakes through a hurricane. I still haven't decided how I'm going to approach that issue. With Katrina and Rita, I turned on the air conditioning before the storm and dropped my house into the high 50's. I bundled against the cold and avoiding opening any doors. My house didn't start to become uncomfortably warm for a long time. I suspect that my snake cages would stay warm for quite a while even when I temporarily drop the temperature so low. Of course, when I'm without power for a day or two in August or September, my later problem will be providing a cool side to my snakes. I haven't fully decided how I'm going to deal with all of this. The funny thing is that when I bought my first ball python in October, the female names stuck in my mind were Katrina and Rita. I named my little girl Katrina.

I think I met the K&N people at a show here in Baton Rouge in December. The show was very small, but there were enough people that I don't remember which ones they were specifically. I don't remember talking to anyone about the effects of the storms. My boss's brother has multiple snakes and fish, and I think they survived in a house down there.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

Bill, my heart goes out to the people of LA ... I don't envy your plight.There is a lot of work ahead for the hard working people of Louisiana.

Nicole and Kevin of K&N Reptiles are two of the nicest people in the business. And Louise and Rob of Bayou Reptiles are terrific people too.

Sorry my reply is so late ... I haven't been back here to KS until just now ...

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Sorry my reply is so late ... I haven't been back here to KS until just now ...

Late replies are no problem for me. I'm ten days late getting back to some people on another forum that I visit sometimes. Real life has a way of sneaking up on us.

Thanks also for the kind words about happenings down here. I also feel for those people who had to care for animals through the storms. I'm on a birding e-mail list, and I remember stories of one family that tried to ride out both of the storms to protect their raptor rehab facilities. I forget what the final outcome of that situation was.

I knew some people who were associated with the animal shelters that were so crowded after the storms. At that time, I didn't own any snakes, but I e-mailed them that I would take any rescues that they received rather than see them put down.

Bill

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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

Bill ... what do you do that involves you with birds, and I meant to ask you why you counted bats. If you don't mind me asking ... I have no problem if you would rather not discuss it

Oh and one last thing .. I might not get to reply to you until tomorrow ... it's getting late here
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I'm something of a bird watcher. I can remember being a little kid back in East Tennessee and watching birds when it snowed. We'd get a good snow, and Mom would sweep part of the patio to make room for sunflower seeds. I'd sit wrapped in a blanket by the sliding glass door and watch the birds eat. Someone had given me an old pair of binoculars, and I'd try to figure out how to use them to watch. We had blue jays, cardinals, chickadees, titmice, purple finches, and occasional sparrows. Like most kids, I found them fascinating.

I didn't do much with it for a long time, but the interest returned about five or six years ago. I'm not a hardcore bird watcher, but I like to putter around with binoculars and a guide book. I saw a warbler that isn't all that common around here a while back when I was kayaking, and I sent an e-mail to the local ornithological society. A guy e-mailed me back and asked if I'd like to join a ListServe for birding in Louisiana. To be honest, I'm not a very good fit with those people in terms of outlook on many things. When I've expressed opinions on some things, I've made some people angry. However, I still enjoy following news in the bird world sometimes.

My bat interest grew out of an interest in caving. The caving interest developed through my high school years and became serious when I was in college. Cavers encounter bats at closer range than most people do and become more interested in bat issues. Bats, like snakes, are a misunderstood species. Like snakes, they have a certain beauty and appeal to those who know them well enough to appreciate them. I never became an expert on them by any means, but I participated in the bat surveys because that's what our caving group did. The data was eventually fed to researchers who were studying bat hibernation and population trends. They are neat little critters.

There's no hurry on a response from my point of view.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

Awsome pic I do like it I do. Don't let Chrissy over there or she will start catching them lol. You have great photo skills too. It is hard to get a photo like that in the wild. Gota love it
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

To bad I'm clear across the country, Chrissy could come and get a few frogs in June when they come out

That little frog sat on the table for as long as I wanted him to, he was awesome. And actually I'm not very good with a camera, but after taking over 80 pictures, I was bound to have a few come out fairly well

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Hey this is Chrissy just got home from work. If I had the chance I would come over and collect up a few of them frogs. And thanks for all the complements on the photos but there are thousands more that we wont post because we feel they are not up to par. Also on the rat comment they tend to give me that same look I know we started breeding to feed but they are just to cute so I end up selling them to the pet shop I work for in return I get food and bedding for our rodents and snakes. I would agree with your comment on the rats it is so hard to feed them off.
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Hi Chrissy ... the worst part of the snake business is feeding time
I love rats, and when they have Dumbo in them, they are even cuter

I wish people realized how sweet rats really are. They have a bad reputation just like snakes do. I don't feed any large rats to my ball pythons so that means I have to feed off the rats when they are in that cute stage. All they have to do is look up at me with that sweet face and I can't feed them off. It's horrible sometimes, I just can't make myself feed them off.

I was down cleaning my pet rats earlier tonight; they all have Dumbo in them and one of them is getting old. When I'm down there talking to them, they all jump up and hold on to the top of the cage and peek over the edge ... they are so damn cute seeing them all holding on and their noses are all lined up along the rim of the cage

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Speaking of noses and "non-cute" animals, I used to do a bat count for a few years when I lived in Oklahoma. I forget which species we were counting, but we'd go into the caves once every winter to take a survey of the hibernating bats.

They all slept together in big clusters, but the density of the clusters varied from year to year. At the start of the trip, we'd have to count individual bats in clusters to get a feel for the density. Once we had that feel, we could estimate the number of bats in a cluster using little formulas that we'd make at the time. For instance, my formula would often be that if I spread my hand, rotated at the wrist back and forth, and put my hand on the ceiling, I'd hit 70 bats. Of course, I wouldn't do anything at all to disturb them, but I could stand under a cluster and get a feel for how many times I'd need to do this to touch every bat. Seven "hands" of bats would be a cluster of 490 bats.

The point of this story is that the initial counting to get a feel for density was a little difficult. I found myself staring up at two or three hundred bats and trying to remember which ones I'd already counted. They're hanging upside down, so I'm looking in their faces and seeing 300 little pink noses. I always joked that some year I was going to bring a black felt-tip marker and dot them as I was counting. When I'd go home at night, I'd see little pink noses every time I closed my eyes.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

Yeah Gail I was just taking care of my pet rats and they all jsut got their treats of peanut butter and pineapple in cardboad egg cartons they are just spoiled rotten. We also appologize for high jacking this thread lol. some times it just happens.
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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy
"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Peanut butter and pineapple sounds yummy

I give my gerbils the cardboard from an empty paper towel roll

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looks like a nice normal to me.