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jimfmcdonald Mar 27, 2006 11:34 PM

not sure how all of my fellow hognose breeders will take this but, some say it cant be done and others say it can. so will see. I put it in the hybrid forum as well but they are both hognose anyway! he he he.. what do you think?

JIM

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Juile Mar 28, 2006 03:17 AM

Oh that should be interesting you might get amazing colors/patterns . I agree both are hognose but found in two seperate parts of the world but both hognose so wouldnt think babies if you get any would be hybrids.

FloridaHogs Mar 28, 2006 06:56 AM

Different SPECIES interbreeding....interesting. Don't forget Julie that Hognose is only shared in their common name, not in their scientific name (Lystrophis vs. Heterodon). I have found them to be similar, but vastly different as well.

It will be interesting Jim. Will they be keeled, not keeled, half and half? Diurnal or nocturnal? Very interesting project?
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Jenea

1:1 Tricolor Hognose
0:0:2 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

Juile Mar 28, 2006 02:23 PM

Posted by: FloridaHogs at Tue Mar 28 06:56:37 2006 [ Report Abuse ] [ Email Message ]

Different SPECIES interbreeding....interesting. Don't forget Julie that Hognose is only shared in their common name, not in their scientific name (Lystrophis vs. Heterodon). I have found them to be similar, but vastly different as well.

It will be interesting Jim. Will they be keeled, not keeled, half and half? Diurnal or nocturnal? Very interesting project?
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Jenea

Oh thats a good point . I didnt even know that. I just have one male hognose that is around a year old . So expert I am not lol. I assumed since hognose it was same but from different area.

FloridaHogs Mar 28, 2006 03:17 PM

The Giant Madagascan Hognose can get to be almost 7 to 8 feet. Ha, would love to see that coupling LOL!! It is also a different species from the other two, Leioheterodon.
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Jenea

1:1 Tricolor Hognose
0:0:2 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

dewittg Mar 28, 2006 08:55 PM

>>Different SPECIES interbreeding....interesting. Don't forget Julie that Hognose is only shared in their common name, not in their scientific name (Lystrophis vs. Heterodon). I have found them to be similar, but vastly different as well.
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More than just a different species, that's a different genus. T'would be very surprising if fertile eggs result.

deg

reako45 Mar 28, 2006 11:55 PM

Is that 2 Westerns and a tricolored? Interested in seeing the offspring.

reako45

tsawasi Mar 30, 2006 03:53 AM

personaly i think nature should be left alone. if people keep coming up with all the designer, and the mixed breeds of animals well pretty soon it will start to be noticed that the originals are gone.

Colchicine Mar 28, 2006 07:14 AM

Hey, I don't blame him for getting "some cloaca" any chance he can!
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dustyrhoads Mar 28, 2006 06:04 PM

getting it on "hoggy" style.
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matuasto Mar 28, 2006 09:41 AM

Jim, are you the "young Frankestein" ja,ja,ja.

In 2000 I can obtain hibrids L.pulcher X L.dorbignyi , an this hibrids killer my dear mother , he is in prission now.
One hidrid L.pulcher X heterodon perhaps result a one serial assesine , CAUTION.

Good luck Jim , never say no possible.

evilelvis Mar 28, 2006 05:14 PM

The female seems well ''up for it''. but beware, my friend tried it with a male tri and a female western and she ate him!!!
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evilelvis Mar 29, 2006 02:46 AM

Have they actually locked up yet dude?
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jimfmcdonald Mar 30, 2006 07:03 PM

I only saw them locked up the one time, but they were together for a day or two.

justinian2120 Mar 29, 2006 06:09 PM

like someone said-two different genera...but that's not unusual,to see such different snakes hybridize....western hogs are xenodontinae(subfamily),and i think tri-colors are too,so fertile offspring is not out of the question,surprisingly.but that's a weird group,xenodon.kind of like boigae,just a mixed bag that is in need of a lot more studying/research....so put this breeding experiment down under inter-generic fertility and compatability,i guess,lol....i too am a litle curious to see what pops out!
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