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Varanuskpr Mar 29, 2006 05:00 PM

I was trying to find the going price for dwarf burm females, and if there is one for hets for albino.

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JLExotics Mar 29, 2006 05:29 PM

From what I've seen the price has pretty much fallen quite quickly on them. I've seen them at $2,500 and the guy was willing to take much less. Also hear they are mean as hell! Anyways...good luck in your search!
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bebo Mar 29, 2006 11:15 PM

Not all the dwarfs are mean,lol. While some of them do have attitude, some are quite easy to deal with. Bob Clark still had some females last time I was up. You'll just have to work with them to get them settled in. as far as het albino dwarfs. The only ones are offspring from a dwarf x albino double het green & granite. So they are 50% dwarf het albino and possible het green & granite. Thats the only crosses from dwarf x morph available at this time, that has been posted anywhere.

HighEndHerpsInc Mar 30, 2006 10:23 AM

I remember when they first appeared just 3 short years ago everyone thought they were going to be the next incredible thing in the burm world. So because of this and because there were only a few available they were demanding relatively high prices. If memory serves me correctly I think it was 10k per baby then. I was skeptical, as were many others and so I decided to wait and see what happened with the market on them. The dwarf retic market had not gone very well and the dwarf retic morph crosses certainly were never very popular and did not command high prices for very long. Sure enough, the dwarf burmese also dropped very rapidly in value. The second year they were about 5k if memory serves and this year they are less than half that. I don't think this is due to a wide availability of them but moreso due to a lack of interest in them as a whole by the general herp world. Like the retics I theorize that when most people want a burm or a retic they want one that will get huge. Also, with both retics and burmese, when they are crossed with albinos or some other morph they are producing offspring that are half giant, true form burmese or retic. So these half dwarfs have the ability to still get very large. So they are thus not true dwarfs any longer. So why even bother getting an albino that will still get 14 or 15 feet for 2k when reg albinos get only slightly bigger and cost 150 bucks?

Anyhow, I hope this helps y'all in making your decisions.
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Varanuskpr Mar 30, 2006 11:08 AM

I was wondering all this about dwarfs, because i have a CB female 100%het albino that is 3yrs old and 59inches and about 1.5kg if i remember. I have as much proof as one could want/hope for and as i don't have the money to buy a male or the desire to deal with breeding, i wanted to put in on the market.

HighEndHerpsInc Mar 30, 2006 11:22 AM

My advice would be to sell her soon then because this market is going to continue to drop until the prices level out somewhere between 300 and 500 for dwarfs or dwarf mixes of any type in just a couple more years. Of course this is just my personal opinion and I could be wrong.

I'd appreciate it if you could drop me an email at David_Beauchemin@highendherps.com
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bebo Mar 31, 2006 12:49 AM

How can you say how big the offspring from a dwarf burm and morph will be when there has only been one clutch produced(thatis known) and those offspring haven't even reached one year of age? The number you posted is just a guess?

And far as the dwarf retics not gaining popularity??? They seem to be doing just fine. Dwarf albinos, Genetic Stripes,etc are selling out each year, and going for a good price for the breeders producing them. I guess getting $1500 and up a piece isn't good money?

One's opinion is just that. but stating it as truth when something isn't even known yet(as in the dwarf x morph crosses) is false. One can guess but thats all it is...a guess. and the price drop isn't that big a thing. When they reach more economical prices they sell better anyways. not many folks dropping 5-10K these days on average. But animals do move faster when they get below that. I'll takethat chump change all day,lol.

jmcmanamon Apr 01, 2006 10:00 AM

I have 1.1 CB Dwarf Burmese. They are my favorite snakes. I don't have a regular Burm so can't compare them other than size. The male is very calm, docile, and inquisitive. A couple bites but only because I was clumsy with the mouse. Never aggressive to me. The female is around 6 feet and weighs about 3630 grams. She used to give a little hiss when I would first pick her up but has never bitten me and I just reach in and get her; no hook. She does get very cranky when in shed but I leave her alone then. They are inquisitive when first out of their cages but then settle down and hang out. I would never sell these two and no, I am not writing this to try to sell babies. Just wanted to say my snakes are not mean and overpriced.

HighEndHerpsInc Apr 01, 2006 11:13 AM

I certainly never meant to imply that they are not worth a lot. To me they are worth every penny of the 5k each that they were last year. Being somewhat rare, very hard to get, entirely new and thus 100% interesting and unique. No, I certainly do not feel they are not worth a bundle. To me they are. It's just the market that tends to be very fickle and it's the market that determines and sets going rates on these incredible animals and all others.

Just like my albino hybrid rock/burmese. I have got many comments that they are "mutt snakes not worth a dime". This doesn't bother me in the slightest since I know what they are worth and the only ones in the world are in my facility. I wouldn't sell them for ANY amount as they are much more valuable to me as future breeders. Not to make a bunch of money with. But to make incredible new things the world has never seen before. The possibilities are literally infinite. And if I sold them I wouldn't be able to do that, experience it. So I price them above what I expect anyone would be willing to pay. If offers come in anywhere close to that amount I raise it. So I get to keep them No, I couldn't care less about the money. Money is just money. But to have something that there is no other in the world,. now that's something or real value.
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beau Apr 02, 2006 01:32 PM

I would be curious where you got the c.b. pair with female being 6'?? The first captive breedings of these was in dec 03. The animals from those clutches are around 3' right now, maybe a bit more. So if you have one that is 6' I would be interested in hearing about it..

thanks

HighEndHerpsInc Apr 02, 2006 03:14 PM

Just out of curiosity, but is your last name Lewis?

Good lookin snake, btw.
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jmcmanamon Apr 04, 2006 03:06 PM

I got my two CB Dwarf Burmese from the ladies at Camlon Reptiles. The female has grown a lot faster than the male mostly because he will only eat live mice; no rats. She eats f/t rats and I have to make sure she doesn't overeat as she loves to eat.

frogsandtatts Apr 06, 2006 08:20 AM

I have a pair of dwarfs.They are both under 4 foot and both are extremely aggressive.They tend to be shy and require a little more moisture than any burm i have ever owned.I wonder if in the wild they burrow both of mine tend to want to root around in substrate all day.Kind of blood python in actions

beau Apr 06, 2006 02:08 PM

they are burrowers and have different eye and nose placement to help with that!! Very cool.


HighEndHerpsInc Apr 10, 2006 01:52 AM

Man, that is really morbid. Is this a picture taken by the exporters?

By the way, don't you breed albino ball pythons?

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beau Apr 10, 2006 03:45 AM

no taken here in the US. Why morbid?? The photo was cropped then transposed on top of the normal burm to show difference.

I do not breed ball pythons

HighEndHerpsInc Apr 10, 2006 09:48 AM

I see. It appeared as if the head had been severed and then placed over the head of a living burmese. Even looking at it now, knowing it is not, I see a fleshy-color around the base of the neck that must be scale reflection of a persons' hand.

Do you by chance live in AZ? I knew a Beau from over there some years back is why I ask. He too had herp associates with dwarfs.
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