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how do i post pic??

ok, just go to this link then... ok? please help me...

http://www.repticzone.com/forums/Garter-RibbonSnakes/messages/712588.html

Definitely not Thamnophis. Need a close-up of the nose to be certain, but looks like Salvadora to me..the patch-nosed snake.

~~Greg~~

ok, tnx.. i got more pix... can you visit it again? thanks for your reply, i'll try to look up for those two snakes you mentioned... tnx...

Those appear to be a species of Dendrelaphis, one of the southeast Asian "Bronzebacks". It might be D. pictus.
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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

>>how do i post pic??

Absolutely NOT a garter. Not even close. I'm 90% usre it's a rat snake, 98% sure it's harmless but it's not one I'm familiar with. It does look a lot like the patch-nose Greg mentioned. To me the head looks all wrong for a bronzeback, in particular the eye is way too small.

You mentioned on the other forum that you were having trouble geting them to eat, and that you were handling them a lot. That may be part of the problem. Hanlde them as little as possible until they eat. They may just be stressed out. Stay away from the cage as much as possible and/or cover it with a sheet so they can't see you. If possible, put them in separate cages for a while. If you get them to eat, then after a few weeks, start handling them again.

Please excuse my sloppy typing...

>>I'm 90% usre it's a rat snake

Should say "I'm 90% sure..."

>> Hanlde them as little as possible

Should say "Handle them..."

To me the head looks all wrong for a bronzeback, in particular the eye is way too small.

I answered that this morning after a quick look at the picture, but I also felt that the head was too elongate for a Bronzeback. The reason came to me later today. They don't look right for Dendrelaphis because they aren't. In fact, I was on the wrong side of the world.

These appear to be a species of Leptophis. I don't know which one, and ahaetulla and mexicanus are highly variable.

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Chris Harrison
San Antonio, Texas

You could be right, Chris, but the limited info I have on them says both are green. I caught an ahaetulla down in Costa Rica a few years ago, & it was certainly green. The original poster could have made this a lot easier by letting us know the origin of these critters. Looking at the nose, I'd have to say they are not patch-nosed snakes, but the marking & coloration sure look an awful lot like them.

~~Greg~~

It looks pretty identical to the painted bronzeback in the link below, however, compared to the Elegant Bronzeback they eyes are much smaller. This kid found it in a pet store in the Phillipines, whose to say that it is native and not an import??
painted bronzeback

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