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My ultimate challenge...

mexicanamak Apr 01, 2006 07:12 PM

This interesting little guy kept me busy almost the entire winter, but I think the effort can almost be called a success. He's finally feeding regularly and beginning to put on a little weight, still a bit thin but growing and coming around. At one point I honestly thought this guy was going to get the best of me and he would loose the battle to survive. I don't know where I found it, but somehow I managed to find the energy to struggle with this little one and give him a fighting chance. I guess patience, persistence and a lot of attention has its rewards.

Mike

I would have really hated to loose this little guy, really happy to be able to share him now...

Replies (11)

mexicanamak Apr 01, 2006 07:14 PM

'05 thayeri male...

xbertmouser Apr 01, 2006 08:55 PM

he is worth the effort. i like the pattern alot. i had a gray banded that was like that about eating. i "nursed" him though lizards and then to pinks. i saw his sides shrink and then he just took off like he never had a problem. i now have a closer feel for him above some of my other snakes because of all the praying and hoping.i remember opening his lid at times just knowing he would be dead. but he is strong as an ox now. you did good!

mexicanamak Apr 01, 2006 09:04 PM

Thanks, I appreciated hearing that. It's a great feeling indeed!

Mike

pikiemikie Apr 01, 2006 08:18 PM

Mike, great abstact sort of broken saddles. Awsome look to that one. Good work. Woth the effort for sure. mike

mexicanamak Apr 01, 2006 08:40 PM

Thanks Mike, it does feel mighty good to have him doing well. It was touch-and-go with him for a long time. Good learning experience.

A few years ago I wouldn't have taken a second look at a pattern like his, but you know how much I like it these days. I have a similar '04 male, orange in color, from the same bloodline... and a '05 female with the same thing going on, just not as exaggerated. I'll get pics of those two one of these days, the male has that bi-color look to him. Neat and unusual stuff for sure.

Mike

Steve_Craig Apr 01, 2006 08:55 PM

Nice job on gettng that beauty up to par. I think it was well worth the effort Mike.

Steve

mexicanamak Apr 01, 2006 09:07 PM

Thanks Steve, I guess these challenges are part of why many of us do what we do. Never a dull moment!

Mike

KenCasstevens Apr 02, 2006 01:07 AM

What a fantastic looking snake. I'm so glad he made it. Last season I had a cal king baby that never ate for the first 6 months of his life. I tried live, f/t, braining, and finally force feeding, and I thought he was going to die for sure, but one day he just started eating like he had done it all along. Patience always pays off. Great job!
Ken

mexicanamak Apr 02, 2006 09:27 AM

Thanks Ken, it was a real challenge with this guy too. For a very long time I had to assist-feed this guy miniscule amounts of Hills Prescription Diet A/D mixed to a thin milkshake consistency with a dosing needle. His system seemed to be so unprepared that he couldn't process anything substantial. I gave him every opportunity to eat and digest even the smallest pink parts on his own, with no luck. He regurged every time. He seemed to have a blockage of some sort about 2/3 of the way down toward his tail and couldn't pass anything through. His rear 1/3 was unusually shaped and his umbilical scar was almost half his body length which led me to believe he wasn't quite done when he emerged from the egg. He was running out of steam and before it was too late I started him on the Hills mixed with water, initially to a very watery consistency, thickening the mixture with more of the Hills every few weeks as he could handle it. The Hills did the trick and kept him going, giving him gradually larger and thicker amounts until he was finally able to digest pink halves. Once he gained strength, added a little weight and shed a couple times he went right after those pink halves and hasn't turned back.

Commenting on his looks, there is something kind of interesting about this bloodline and that pattern. I have a '05 female from that line that has the same thing beginning to happen with her bold split saddles. For some reason, these thayeri produce some offspring that have this trait when their leonis saddles split wide open... you begin to see those spiral shapes and all sorts of weird things going on with the pattern. Cool stuff. I'll post pics of the female so you can see what I am talking about.

Mike

jonellopez Apr 02, 2006 11:35 AM

Hi Mike

I also had one that gave me some trouble with getting her started (although not as bad as yours). Tried most of the tricks and she was still reluctant. As her siblings doubled in size she was still the same size pre-brumation so I hibernated her for a couple of weeks. She ate a live pink first week after post brumation and then nothing for a month. She had just recently started to feed on FT pinks which gave me some relief that it's not a lost cause. Here's is her post-hatch pic. She has this cool square head pattern along with the orange eyebrows.

BTW, my breeders have been breeding the last couple of days or so. So who's next in line? *wink*
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Jonel @ Selective Propagations
www.spsnakes.com

mexicanamak Apr 02, 2006 12:28 PM

Hey Jonel,

My males have been up and feeding like junk-yard dogs, just pulled the curtain on the females yesterday so they will be ready to get going soon. They all look fantastic. It stays cold for a while here in the spring so timing should work out with me getting a later start. I'll drop you an e-mail to let you know how my schedule pans out.

Looking forward to an exciting year this season!

Mike

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