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A time for action

roocat71 Apr 06, 2006 10:39 AM

As many of you know Tanzania hasn’t issued any export permits for 2006. Many different species that are available in the chameleon trade come from this country, more specifically several different species of leaf chameleons. In fact, the vast majority of the leaf chameleons you see for sale come from Tanzania.

There is an awfully good chance that export licenses will not be issued this year and possibly never again or for some time.

Being predominately a leaf chameleon keeper, this disturbs me quite a bit and on a few different levels. One being that I won’t be able to replenish my breeding groups with fresh blood and/or replace deceased chameleons. The other is the fact that as a community we currently don’t have a solid captive bred population like we see with veileds and panthers and yet keepers are purchasing leaf chameleons left and right.

I am not implying that keepers/breeders should start setting up large breeding groups of leaf chameleons in order to build up a captive population to equal what we see with veileds and panthers. That would obviously be costly and there is really no real profit in leaf chameleons from what I can see (which is probably the main reason why we don’t see a lot of CB pygmies). All boils down to money folks.

What I am asking is that keepers who have kept them in the past and keepers who have a good working knowledge of chameleons (experienced) that are somewhat interested in these species take up a small group of them. If we get enough SERIOUS keepers working with small groups then we just may be able to keep one another going with these species.

Of course we won’t be able to satiate the small demand for them, but I’m not interested in providing pygmies for the impulse buyers, newbies, etc. – I’m more interested in serious keepers like myself who love all things pygmy and want to keep their hobby going.

The two species that I suggest:

R. brevicaudatus
R. temporalis

If you are mulling this over, don’t forget one of the cooler aspects of keeping pygmy chameleons … their enclosures. Others may disagree, but IMO you certainly can get much more creative with a pygmy enclosure then you can with a true chameleon one.

It’s also important that they are wild caught specimens and not captive bred. There are only a couple breeders offering CB pygmies – one being myself, and I wouldn’t want to acquire any F2 offspring from my groups for obvious reasons.

The other side of the coin is the true chameleons. I don’t currently work with any true chameleons indigenous to Tanzania, but it would be a shame to burn that bridge for any future interests. So this is obviously an issue for many keepers.

Even if Tanzania decides to issue permits, some day the importation of chameleons will stop and I suspect that day may be sooner then later.

So this is my call to arms for the sake of the hobby.

-roo

Replies (5)

fcreptiles Apr 06, 2006 11:31 AM

Hello,

Very well said Roo. The fact is that we do not know what is going on over there and that colonies should be established to ensure the future of these animals in the US. I for one have kept back several C.werneri, C.deremensis, and Rhampholeon for my own Breeding purposes and I suggest others to do the same if they have the ability. Even if tanzania does open up this should be regarded as a wake up call to those breeders who have been putting off certain breeding projects due to the fact that they think that these animals will always be available. I kick myself all the time for not trying harder with B.peramata(and I am sure I am not the only one kicking myself). I used to see 1000s of b.permata come in and I put off purchasing a large group because their frequent availability gave me the impression that they would always be there, and overnight a species that came in by the thousands now does not come in whatsoever. We just got in a large group of brevicaudatus from tanzania and I have held 50 of them back for breeding to insure that we will continue to see these species available in the event of a country shutdown.

Regards,

Nick Mole
First Choice Reptiles
nick@firstchoicereptiles.com
www.firstchoicereptiles.com
407-855-7323

First Choice Reptiles

roocat71 Apr 06, 2006 11:44 AM

Thanks a lot Nick for your comments/reinforcement.

So the theme here is … you snooze … you lose.

-roo/Tom

PEPPERQUILL1 Apr 06, 2006 05:50 PM

Hi,
Just thought I'd let everyone know Tanzania just opened and new quota is out.Just because the Tanzanian chameleons are coming in again does not mean they will be avalable forever.
Thanks,
Holland Incitti
Color Creations
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eric adrignola Apr 06, 2006 09:21 PM

The quotas have been out since Feb. The problem was the non-issuance of liscences. From what I have heard, many shipments made to Europe with 2005 liscences were confiscated. Are you saying that the 2006 liscenses HAVE been issued, or just that some shipments with older 2005 liscences have gotten through the USFWS?

PEPPERQUILL1 Apr 07, 2006 03:27 PM

Hi,
The quotas in Feb were listed on the CITES website put not issued.The quotas have now been issued and so have licenses.I will have CITES paperwork in 1 week.
Thanks,
Holland Incitti
Color Creations

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