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Usually people think of LA Pines being rather drab. Here is a nice colorful male of mine from of Bienville Parish locale

Scott John Reptiles

>>Usually people think of LA Pines being rather drab. Here is a nice colorful male of mine from of Bienville Parish locale
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>>Scott John Reptiles

What bloodline is that second image suposedly from?

I hear ya thinking.

My LA Pines came from Bart Bruno which I believe are from the Vandevnter line.

>>My LA Pines came from Bart Bruno which I believe are from the Vandevnter line.

That explains the looks some. I'd have to check my records, but Bart got his (or at least some of his) from a breeder in LA. The female was a Kane line animal (cross between a zoo line malke and a Vandeventer female). The male came from Magers ultimately. We ended up owning those adults a year or two after Bart acquired his babies. They aren't Vandeventer - they have a quarter vandeventer in them, unless Bart has dumbed them and acquired a different line - like I suggested he should do in an email once.

Magers was working with hybrid and normal LA Pines. That male from Magers (father to Bruno's pair, remember) was a VERY, VERY strangely colored "ruthveni." We pair in excess of $700 for the pair, and we decided to not breed him in our collection. We had heard rumors that it was a hybrid, that it was pure, and that "they don't remember what it was." That was ewnough for me to not trust the line, so I got rid of the male. The female was verificable back to Kane, etc. GREAT looking female!

I don't know that male was a hybrid, but it certainly looked less like a pure ruthveni than any other one I've seen that was supposedly and F1 animal! Pure or not, too many people would suspect it, so I decided to drop that male from my colony and not worry about it.

I'd suggest that you take images as it grows to watch for ANY/ALL color changes.

They certainly are great hissers when you get them made, aren't they?
KJ