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Ivory.....

Sojourner Apr 07, 2006 06:43 PM

The name says it all. These pics say the rest. Enjoy.....






Thanks for looking!

Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

Replies (21)

albinorosy Apr 07, 2006 06:56 PM

wow, beautiful! whats the history on that awesome anery.

Sojourner Apr 07, 2006 07:39 PM

She was produced from breeding our 02 EBV Red Group hypo to our 01 Ivory anery. She is one of three aneries that showed up in the litter somehow. Here are some pics of the parents....

Dad....

Mom....

Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

JOEP123 Apr 07, 2006 10:29 PM

I have a question.
Is this th same as a white Anery?
She looks cleaner, not dots, but is it the same?
Thank you for any answers.
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Joel Pretz

Sojourner Apr 08, 2006 09:24 AM

I have yet to hear about a "white" anery. We have a line of animals we are working with that we are tentatively calling our white group, but we have yet to cross it into our anery stock. That will hopefully happen this upcoming season.

I call her an Ivory because her anery lineage can be traced directly back to Jeff Ronne's Ivory line. Hope this helps.

Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

ChristianC Apr 07, 2006 07:00 PM

You gotta love anerys and this is one of the nicest!

Christian
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porsche Apr 07, 2006 07:07 PM

Jesse, Smokin' hot beauty. What else ya got hiding in your snake room?

Rick & Sherry

Sojourner Apr 07, 2006 07:33 PM

Thnaks for the kind words. Here are a few other animals we have stashed away here.....

These are all Red Group DH Ivory Ghosts from the same litter as the girl above....


Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

LindaH Apr 07, 2006 07:11 PM

You have produced some gorgeous babies, Jesse. I think this is one of my favs. Wow!!
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Linda Hedgpeth
lindafh@frontiernet.net
Sierra Serpents

Sojourner Apr 07, 2006 07:23 PM

This girl is giving her mom a good run for top anery in my book. On days like these she just blows me away. Her other two anery sisters are not too shabby either.....

I guess I will have to get some new pics of them to share sometime soon as well. Thanks again for the kind words.

Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

LindaH Apr 07, 2006 07:30 PM
Sojourner Apr 07, 2006 07:26 PM

She is one of the three unexpected aneries that showed up in the RG hypo X Ivory breeding we did last year. Thanks for the compliment.

Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

LauraV Apr 07, 2006 07:27 PM

I can't wait to see what that one looks like as an adult! I hope it stays so light.
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Delusions of Grandeur feed the EGO...

drimes Apr 07, 2006 07:47 PM

All I could say as i scrolled through the pictures was WOW!
What a beautiful creature!

Kathy & Denny

VolcomHerp Apr 07, 2006 07:52 PM

np

ChrisGilbert Apr 07, 2006 10:42 PM

Is that one of you babies? I can't say enough about its beauty.

Sojourner Apr 08, 2006 09:35 AM

She is the best of three that showed up in our 05 EBV red group hypo X Ivory anery breeding. One of these days I will look into having them all tested back against their mom to see if they are possibly a product of parthenogenesis. This will be subsequent to our rg hypo being bred to another anery to see what the results are. I can find no anery in his background, and if he were a het, then I should have gotten a few rg ivory ghosts in the litter. Maybe they are just freaks. Maybe I just crapped out on the odds. I still feel blessed. We will see.

Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

ChrisGilbert Apr 08, 2006 01:07 PM

posted pictures of them when the litter was born, I honestly thought their color was due to being premature. At this point I am not sure what to think.

Parthenogenisis would result in Clones of the mother. This is a viable possibility, since they are all four Anerythristic females.
A Clone does NOT have to have the same pattern, different factors than simply genetics decide the pattern. The only thing that would be the same among the four of them is their Genotype.
Identical Twin pythons have been born many times, and the look different from one-another. However, their gene makeup is the same.

Sojourner Apr 08, 2006 01:31 PM

One thing is for sure, and that is they are definitely anerythristic. I do not believe these three to be identical twins as they were each in their own individual sacs at birth. All were premature, and all bear characteristics from mom that none of the other boas from the litter seem to have. For example, extremely defined muscle tone and a very, very clingy and strong grip to whatever they may be hanging onto at the time. This makes my opinion lean toward parthenogenensis, but it is only an opinion. Jeff Ronne is of the same opinion. I will find out for sure one day.

We do have a definite set of identical twin lavendar hypos from our first litter, produced in 04. They were in the sac together, and my wife and I both were fortunate enough to get to watch them emerge from it. They do not have identical patterns, but do have identical color, which is quite different from any other animal from that litter, and is very unusual and unique compared to all other hypos everywhere. We believe this to be due to the "white" trait we are working with here.

Jesse
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"Continuing to cling to the patterns you know, inhibits your ability to discover what you don't know." - Eric Allenbaugh

ChrisGilbert Apr 08, 2006 01:45 PM

I was not sugesting that your Anerys were twins or triplets. I was just useing the Identical Twin analogy as SUPPORTING EVIDENCE to the Parthenogenisis theory.

If Identical twins, same genotype, can have different pattern. Then Parthenogenic Clones can have different pattern!

Sorry for the prior confusion.

kirby Apr 08, 2006 09:08 AM

I know well that not everyone likes the anerythristic boas. As a person who really likes anerys I must say that is an awesome anery. I think the anerys alone can be stunning and as better lines are developed there is a lot to do with them in combination morps projects.
Bill Kirby

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