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Madagascar Hog Nose Snakes???

minicopilot Apr 07, 2006 10:49 PM

Do you here that work with Hog Nose Snakes that are native to the U.S. consider Madagascar Hog Nose Snakes to be in the same family in the same way that Eastern Indigos and South American Cribos are?
Also, has anyone here worked with them and if so, how are they to work with, keep, and breed?

Thank you.

Replies (13)

cochran Apr 08, 2006 10:17 AM

I personally don't think they are related at all.I have a female giant mad. hog & she is a sweety pie.She hisses a little but doesn't bite.Her upkeep is pretty much the same as for a corn snake.Here's a pic!

reako45 Apr 08, 2006 12:52 PM

A few questions; How big do they get? What is the latin/scientific name for these guys? Where did you get her, and how much $$?

reako45

Pendlehog Apr 08, 2006 04:02 PM

These hogs are known as Leioheterodon Madagascarensis (hope Ive spelt that right!)
Some have a bit of an attitude, but like all species it really depends on their individual personalities.
Mine are about 6ft in length and are also pretty chunky snakes. Can't help with price as I'm in the UK.

minicopilot Apr 08, 2006 07:13 PM

Thanks all for the info. If these snakes can be kept like a Corn Snake, then I'm adding some to my collection.
Nice pic of the Mad. Hognose by the way!

Evilelvis Apr 10, 2006 06:14 AM

They can be kept similar to a corn, but you need to be aware that the bite has more punch than the average western. I know 2 people that have been hospitalised by them with palpitations and needed to be cardiac monitored!!!
i got tagged by a young male of about 2' long and my thumb doubled in size and throbbed for about 24 hours then went down.

I have one pair that are placid, and an extra female that hissies, hoods and musks as soon as you open her viv, but she has never bitten, she is ltc which might be the difference, the other 3 i have are all cb.

Cool snakes though, more closley related to the elapids than westerns i believe.
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FloridaHogs Apr 10, 2006 06:53 AM

Do you have Blondes, Speckleds, or Giants?
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Jenea

1:1 Tricolor Hognose
0:0:2 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

evilelvis Apr 10, 2006 06:46 PM

I was talking about giants, but i have all 3 species of madagascan hogs!!
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FloridaHogs Apr 11, 2006 10:46 AM

So do you treat them as hots? I was told their temperment if very docile.
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Jenea

1:1 Tricolor Hognose
0:0:2 Florida Redbelly Snakes
0:1 Gulf Coast Box Turtle
1:1 Red-eared Slider
2:0 Cats
1:1 Kids
1:0 Spouse

evilelvis Apr 11, 2006 03:25 PM

No!! just handle them with care, they are a big snake a pack more punch than people realise.I only have one thats a bit naughty!
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minicopilot Apr 10, 2006 07:34 AM

Thanks for the info. I keep/breed Yellow Tail Cribos and hots so I'm more than ready for these snakes attitude.
Just thought they might need some specialized care as I never dealth with these.
Seems like they are pretty straight forward in the care and needs. I'm sold!
Take care

cochran Apr 11, 2006 03:41 PM

My female bit me on my knuckle one time( feeding response)and nothing happened,maybe she just didn't get me good enough. jeff

WW Apr 11, 2006 04:40 AM

>>Do you here that work with Hog Nose Snakes that are native to the U.S. consider Madagascar Hog Nose Snakes to be in the same family in the same way that Eastern Indigos and South American Cribos are?
>>Also, has anyone here worked with them and if so, how are they to work with, keep, and breed?

Leioheterodon is completely unrelated to Heterodon. heterodon is a Xenodontine, a New World (sub-)family of "colubrid" snakes, whereas Leioheterodon is a Pseudoxyrhophiine, a uniquely Malagasy radiation. In fact, Leioheterodon is more closely related to a cobra than to a N. American hognose...

Cheers,

WW
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minicopilot Apr 11, 2006 06:14 PM

Thanks for the info!

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