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How big do these get and what is thier temperment like??

I feel like I am walking on eggshells in order to answer this post. This topic is one were people get upset quickly but here it goes. Oh, I am only talking about Jampeas because this is only what I have experience with.

In my opinion they have not been around long enough to place maximum growth lengths on them. Ones that are WC always seem to be smaller the CB ones. I have seen people making claims that they stay 12-14 feet for females. I have two Jampea females; one that is well into 16’ and the other is almost 16’. Both of these Jampeas are CB and from two different parents which were both smaller but WC. Now there are other people that have CB adults that are smaller then mine are. I am a heavy feeder so this has a lot to do with the size of mine. My male is impossible to measure but is much smaller.

The reason I say they have not been around long enough because they were first bred in captivity by Cindy Baldogo back in 1999. Mine are from her successful 2000 breeding. I would not like to place maximum lengths on them until they were 10 – 15 years old. Mine are still growing but at a much smaller rate. I agree that they are a smaller retic then most, however they can still get big. If you want a small one purchase a male because they will not reach the same lengths as a female.

Now for temperament. Mine are hyper but not mean. They are more active then my tigers, albinos, or super tiger and they seem to burn off the food faster. I have read plenty on WC ones which were nippy. This is not surprising since they were WC. If you want one you can handle look for a CB one.

Jim

Her mother was 12 ft. (but I don't know how old mom was at the time). Mine is very tame and has never attempted to bite, even when feeding. But she does move around a lot more (when handled) than a Burmese python - she is always on the move and likely to pull something down or get into something if I don't pay attention when handling her.

I am very happy with her, but she is the extent of my dwarf retic experience, so this particular snake is all that I can comment about on the subject.

It's funny you mentioned how they will get into things quickly. I too notice is. They seem to want to climb as soon as they are out and about. Have you happened to notice this also?

Jim

then over my head, then up or over to whatever she can reach. She is quite active. I have never kept her out until she got tired. I have taken her to some shows for our local herp society and she seems to keep going for hours at a time, although she does stop to rest now and then.

I would love to make a really big and tall walk-in cage for her and observe where she would spend her time.

I just got my kayuadi retic last week. He is a male WC at about five feet. The vet says he is 4 or 5 yrs old, he might grow a little more but not much. I just got him last week and i'm trying to leave him alone so he can settle in. I want to try to handle him so bad. He has been hiding in the water bowl or the hide box, but no stikes or aggressive behavior. Which i guess is a good thing. I will try to post pic soon.

How did the vet determine that this retic was 4 or 5 years of age. Just curious how this was determined.

Kelly

I was wondering the same thing Kelly. Maybe you cut them in half and count the rings?

Jim

I'm sorry, are you a DVM or are you trying to be funny?

cute.

A terrible joke.

I wish I knew. I'm no expert myself, thats why I take my animals to the vet. I'm just taking his word for it. This is very little info about them I could look up myself to try to make a determination. I guess he went by size. The guy I got him from says he's about 3-5 yrs old but not sure, since its a WC

What Kelly and I are getting at is there is no way of knowing how old a wild caught retic is. Their growth in the wild is mostly in direct relation to the food intake. Yes, genetics are a factor as locality, and sex. Still I do not see a vet who could give you an accurate answer. The person that sold you the snake and your vet were only giving you a guess. It could have been a year old at that size or it could have been several years old. The truth is no one knows because there is no true way of telling. Sorry if I offended you because this was not the intent. I was only trying to throw some humor to the topic.

Jim

that was a very rude and disturbing comment..we reptile lovers would not make such a comment..very uncalled for..
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0.1 suriname 7'
0.1 columbian 7'
0.1 columbian 2'
0.1 columbian 7'
1.0 burmese 10'
0.1 retic 12'

i thought it was pretty darn funny actually. we as reptile lovers would know nobody here would actually mean a comment like that. get a grip and enjoy the humor.
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Josh Hutto
JKReptiles

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everyone was well aware that jim's intention is not to harm a snake. I admit it brought a smile to my face. Please don't take the political correctness thing too far.

I own a female Jampea, a female Super dwarf, and a male Dwarf Bali.

Female Jamp - She is 5-6 years old, and seven foot long. She is a long term captive x10 months. She has always been a strong feeder and just recently started feeding on f/t large rats. She is a typical retic in that she is a food monger. She is VERY skitish but has never bitten or struck.

Female Super Dwarf - She is 5-6 years old, and five or so foot long. She is Mike Wilbanks stock although I believe she was imported a year or so ago (before I got her) because she has no paperwork of being captive bred/born. She is an excellent feeder also but only live for this little girl. She has an exellent temperament for a LTC snake. She does not bite, strike, nor try to get away. I got very lucky that she is not a rip chord as other WC/LTC dwarf retics can be.

Male Dwarf Bali - Captive bred and born Jan 2001, and is seven foot long. He has an excellent temperament!!! He's sweet as pie and is not head shy. He to is a strong feeder. He is my favorite snake in my collection. He was my first python and my first Retic at that.

So I guess the moral of this long story is buy a CBB snake for they are normally reliable feeders and have the best temeperament. But with that said also remember that Retics are said to be one of the smartest snakes in the world and all have their own different personalities. So even if you buy a CBB snake it doesn't mean that it's going to be sweet as pie or even handlable.
Best of luck.
***dwarf Bali male is pictured****

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Christine
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VERY NICE BALI!!!

Unless you consider a 16ft snake a dwarf. The first to breed them (forgot who...) had a 16ft pair that they ended up selling down the road. I've personally had a 13ft male true bali yellow head. You tell me what's dwarf. You could call them a smaller locallity....but I don't know what dwarf is to you.
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It was sold to me as a Dwarf Retic. I was told it looked like a Bali locality. I have sent dozens of pictures of him from every angle possible to see if any one can confirm if he is a "true" dwarf or not. I have even had Jay Brewer of Prehistoric Pets look at him in person and handle him and the answers were that same. By his color patterns, facial and body structure he looked dwarf to them. Jay was telling me to definitly breed him because he looked like a dwarf to him and he had such great coloring. But I know that Bali are like most other Retics in that they get huge.
His parents were small to. Father was 7' (like my male) and Mother was 11'.

But the only way to know 100% is to breed him out. Time will tell.
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Christine
Tails With Scales Reptiles
Happiness is biting my snake back!