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I'm sure you know Motleys better than anyone on the planet, which is why I'd like to know what your thoughts are on the off colored scales on the underside of Motleys.. I've got a Motley with a purple patch of scales under his chin, it's about identical to the color of the Purple Patternless Super Motley and I've got friends who own Motleys with darker patches, not purple, but more like the coloring on Linda's Super Motleys.. Do you know if the patches of scale color have anything to do with what color the supers will be?? I've also noticed that for the most part, a Motley will throw laddertails or stripes, is this working seperately or random? I have a striped tail male and ended up with all stripe tail offspring. Any opinions would be hugely appreciated.. Thanks in advance. Joe

Here's a picture of my male's patch of purple, the purple is much deeper in person, the bright lights washed away the color.
(Don't worry, I was gentle!lol)

opinions or insight are more than welcome to reply on this post, I only called upon Mr. Stone because he HAS to be the most experienced when it comes to Motleys.. What color scales does your Motley have underneath?? Thanks in advance.

I just fed my male and my female is in shed. I just recieved them from Jeremy on friday and they are awesome. I will let you know as soon as I can check them.

Joe,

Yes, Almost every single Motley has that wierd few scale blotches under the chin. Also, some have it on the neck. I think this is a dominant trait passed on. Some have a LOT more then others. It is funny that you mentioned that because I have had a lot of customers bring that up to me too. They do seem to have the color of the Super Motley. Also, about the Super Motley. The color on them will vary from one animal to another. They change, and as they get older, they almost have a Pewter color to the them, or should I say a Platinum grey color.

I categorize Motleys into 3 different patterns. Many have the circles, and some have the square blocking pattern, but of all the different patterns, you will end up with 3 results. 1 is the STRIPED tail Motleys. 2: The Broken Tailed Pattern in the Motley. 3: The perfect Laddertail. It doesn't matter what the parents have. You could have a dad with PERFECT laddertails, and he will usually produce all 3 looks. I have found that many prefer the Laddertail look. Some the Stripe, and many love the Broken tail too. They are all beautiful, but I'm sure they will be sold on a graded Basis as more are produced.

What is so awesome about the Motleys are the different colors too. Some are more pastel like, and then you can have siblings in the same litter that are VERY dark. Also, the Striping on the Belly that Celia mentioned. Many Motleys have a double striped belly, and some just have a patterned Belly. It seems to be the lower 1/3 of the tail on the belly. However, The HYPO Motleys don't have this. But, the Hypo Motleys do have the pattern after the VENT under the tail just like Normal Motleys. The pattern is very distinguished and easy to see. All Motleys(or Most) have this pattern in them after the Vent under the tail. It is pretty cool.

Thanks for asking. Your Litter must have been an awesome awesome feeling. I don't think I could ever get sick of producing more Motleys and looking at all the different colors, patterns, and other wierd things that go into them. They are my favorite Morphs. Maybe I'm Biased!!! LOL!!!!!! I'm proud the gene is here to stay, and that many will be able to own them someday. As more are produced, the prices will come down, but also, they can also be added to sooo many bloodlines, and different traits to make them unique.

Best of luck to anymore potential litters you may have, and Happy Easter to everyone in the Forum.

Jeremy Stone

You forgot to mention the Hexx pattern Motleys!! I think he's my all time favorite Motley, I haven't seen too many like this. Thanks again for the detailed response.

You are right Joe. I was talking about the Tail Markings of the categorizing. Of the Patterns. There are soo many types it is impossible to lable them all. Square backs, circle back, hex back, ect..... SOOOO many types.

Again, the fun of the Motley. You have a SWEET MOTLEY there you posted. Congrats again. That is what is soo cool. When you watch the babies from that Snake you posted come out, it will be interesting to see all the different looks. Jeremy