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Hey all, i was just wondering what Goini Go for

Pattern-less

Striped

Blotched

Aberrant

Hi-Red/Orange Goini

I've seen a few ads for goini and the prices vary drastically from $40-$150 for normal, none morph Goini so i'd like to take a poll... what do u feel are appropriate prices for Goini hatchlings

Thanx

~ZF


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Royal Blue ReptileZ

Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

You better be glad they don't charge by the pound!LOL. I prefer the patternless and it seems they dont command any more than the regular Blotched. Blaze and all that are always more, but it seems to me they are a shade of brown and not really red, why pay more? These are great snakes to maintain. I dont know of any better for tameness and reliability, really a pleasure. As your photo shows, they get massive. Dont spread the word, maybe they will stay cheap.

nice snake... the female in that pic is gravid so that's why she looks so massive, but she's a nice hefty snake on a regular basis... nice snake... looks a lil blaze-ish...

~ZF
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Royal Blue ReptileZ

Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

I kinda expect a glut of them this year and next by the looks of all who keep them now. So I really don't think they'll go higher do you?
Anyway, it was difficult to give them away before there was much interest so they have maybe began a slight increase, I dunno.
On my list I have them at between $15.-$75. much like nearly all my kings
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

you know what i'm looking forward to from your stock... those ORANGE Goini! and prob a hypo brooksi with a nice eye pattern like that exceptional female u own.

~Z
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Royal Blue ReptileZ

Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

Being a Floridian, as a consumer I am spoiled by cheap snake prices. I'd expect the price of goini to be from $15-$35, the higher price being for one that was exceptional either in color or pattern. Patternless and striped individuals are pretty common, and I don't feel they deserve a price much higher than the typical blotched. If the animals are direct descendents of wild-caught stock, and I have no reason to believe they've had Floridana, or Getula crossed into them, I could see myself paying a little more.

i don't see too many patternless/ Striped animals to be honest and when i do see any they are almost always MALE (i hate that!)

hoping for a nice patternless/ striped female from this pairing!

Thanx for the input

~ZF
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Royal Blue ReptileZ

Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

$15 is too low for any type of "goini" (blotched/striped/banded/patternless/amel or whatever).
$275 is too high for any type of "goini"(blaze phase).
So i would say $35-$50 is a fair price or $100-$150 for one that you can't live without.

I say $40 at the lowest... $120 or so at the highest...

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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

pic

I think I have that one on my photo gallery on here from last year lol.

Isn't that an intergrade though Jeff... I don't remember it being goini? Brooksi with something else... ?
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

I beleive that is a hypo brooksi x goini. Beautiful animal though.

nice one, but are ya sure it aint one a those red-&-blk eastern?

Hey Jet...

Actually that little goini is extremely different from any of the 7 or so eastern kings I've had. The goini are tiny even compared to the neonate easterns... And don't have nowhere near the feeding response that the easterns have.

It's goini.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

I'd like to see it in a year, if you have her next month i may want to get her, we'll see.

If your selling you blotched on Fauna for $145 shipped, and with UPS's price increase for shipping, due to gas prices.
Then your barely making $28 on that snake! Tuesday I went to ship a pair of Rubber Boas for 10:30 delivery and they wanted $112.00, oy vey! I'm glad somebody's getting rich, cause it sure as hell isn't us!
-Phil

I agree with that.

I ship through FedEx... And never aim for the next morning... I go for later in the day. An extra 2 hours in a box isn't going to hurt it. Most I ever paid for shipping a snake was around $50. Costly.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

I heard a rumor that Fed-Ex will no longer be shipping harmless reptiles. Does anybody know if that's true?
-Phil

I dunno. Have you gone through the "certification process" with FedEx and all?
I planned on doing it soon. Hope they still ship for you as long as you're a "certified" shipper.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

I would say the price is very similar to Easterns: $40-$150. I'll be selling my (goini) babies for the same price as my easterns. . .

Got this (nearly patternless) female at Daytona last year:

Zee

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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

you scored well, very well.

Thanks - Bought it from a young kid (about 16/17) at that show. . . He was in a hurry to sell that clutch (it appeared).

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

I'll give you $50 for it lol.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

Hey, what's up?
You're taking all the fun out of it! Let me watch her grow up and see what she looks like in a couple of years - Maybe then???? - Maybe NOT!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Hey Zee...

How's that GIANT eastern kingsnake breeding going? Got any eggs coming?
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

What do you all think the hyperythristic (Blaze Phase)goini should be priced at?

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Those Blaze are the premium in Goini, up to $250.00 has been seen, perhaps they have already come down? There is a lot of refinement yet to be done with erythrystic, hypererythristic or super gargantuan eyrythristic(!?!). I think these are the founding stock of what will be some spectacular red Goini, whether pure or designer specials.
Bluerosy- check out my “Question for ya” on the hybrid forum.... How much for the axanthic patternless Goini X whitesided hypo Brooks? Would you consider that a hybrid, an interesting project or taboo? (But sign me up and name your price)

Nice Goini Love the head pattern!

~ZF

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Royal Blue ReptileZ

Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

to be honest the blaze phase Goini are beautiful snakes but the adults don't do as much for me as the hatchlings, so i ask myself what am i paying for... a snake that will be stunning for a short while??? i've seen some adults that are still orange but that's a few... for the lowest i'd say $100-$150 i can't really give a highest price because i honestly don't think $300+ is good when this "mutation" doesn't hold that much of their color into adulthood.... i do however think this morph can be improved by breeding to red/orange normals... and then command a better price.

just my opinion

~Z

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Royal Blue ReptileZ

Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

The striper is nice... I say about $150 for that one... Because it's definitely alot nicer than any other snake I see for $150. And for the blotched/banded one... Less than $100... Probably somewhere around $75 would be fair.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

I am going to have some solid red ones this year and i will ask $225. for those. Most others like below will run $175.

This gen has not had a lot done with it. I am breeding this into other traits to see what it will produce. Tom (Nokturnal Tom) is raising up some hypo brooks x goini. Can't wait to see what happens with those.

This year I bred the Blaze into lavender goini x brooksi. So the neonates will be hets but they will also have a much higher percentage of goini in them.

I also bred the goini into some T- albinos and some hybrids. Should be an interesting year for the blaze.

225? Seems reasonable enough! REMEMBER ME when the lil' ones hatch! I would like one o' dose - ThANKS!!!

Zee
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"I am an expert on everything, but I know so little and have so much to learn!" -Carsten "Zee" Zoldy-

Is that a recent pic? If not do you have one?
Nice.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

Hmm...

I don't know I guess around $200 for a completely patternless red one wouldn't be tooooooo bad. Don't count on me getting one lol.

Nice snake.
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Mike
KingPin Reptiles Inc.
www.freewebs.com/mikesnake
www.captivebredforum.com

Kind of hard to say. They are beauties. I have seen them for around $250. I think.
As I use to say something is only worth (monetarily)what someone will give you for it.
I could ask a lot for something but it only means something if I actually get it I guess.
I happen to also be of the notion that the hypererythristic is in some way connected to a hypomelanistic trait.
A bit different maybe than the standard "hypo" FL king (and I am not implying a cross or anything here)but it seems to be there to me. They lighten up and lose the intensity much as hypo FL kings do.
Stunning animals as young'n's!
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

You know, it seems you might see all sorts of patterns and lack of patterns in wild animals but you almost never see any red/orange in wild ones.
Just one generation in cb hands and there's a lot of red/orange??...
By selectively keeping those with the most red/least black it seems you can get these animals on a "high-red track" easily.
I remember mine from years back having either golden or silvery colors as well. Some were outstanding to look at.
:Mark
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Surrender Dorothy!

www.crimsonking.funtigo.com

Did you happen to see the ones Mark Bell had last year at Daytona? He had a few silvery ones, the clutch was extremely variable. I would have bought a bunch if there were females but I think I got the only one. Gonna eventually breed it to the Amel male I have. The Amel is so hard to photograph, but looking in Marks display I don't remember seeing any blotched, the patterns were similar to my Amel, though the Amel is definitely busier. I wish I took a pic of that group...I do not know what to think about the massive variation in color and patterns in Goini except maybe it should have some sort of "complex" label like Mexicana? Tom Stevens

What would you say this one is worth?....even though it's only about 75% goini.

Brandon Osborne

Love that snake i can actually see myself paying 300 for that cross! exceptional animal.

~Z
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Royal Blue ReptileZ

Home of Bklyn's Finest Brooksi

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n/m
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"with head raised regally,and gazing at me with lidless eyes,he seemed to question with flicks of his long forked tongue my right to trespass on his territory" Carl Kauffeld

$300 would be a steal. I love that thing! Tom Stevens
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TomsSnakes.com

Yup- agreed.

I'd pay $300 for that little guy in a heartbeat!

//Todd