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I would like to know if you think this could be a first generation hypo.

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Rick Staub
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Is there any black in the tip of the tail that is hidden?

I have seen some really nice first gen's when one of the parents is a very nice pastel.
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Dave Lee

Here are a couple of F1s

I actually have some interesting F-1's, most of which you would think were not....
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Chris & Alliey
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RICK...you produce some of the BEST hypos on the market, I own one, and Can't wait for you to produce more...I have YET to see a hypo I didn't think was the best of the best come from your litters...I have been a fan for a few years now...This is now and as a baby, The color change your line of Hypos goes through is amazing, they get SUPER Orange, with pink and purple marbeling....Sorry for the over praise, we are just super proud to own one of your boas...and REALLY look foward to getting another one or two...Thanks

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Amanda Kingsbury & David Kendrick
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Thanks. Anyone who has bred hypos will tell you though, that as good as some of them look, there are others that are hard to believe they came from the same litter.
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Rick Staub
R&R Reptiles

I don't think you can tell just by the way they look. If you told me it was a poss super salmon I would think that one had a good chance of proving out to be one. But look at Ceila's litter, all of those babies are stunning with hardly any black and they are all F1's. Here is my salmon that came from a super salmon but it 100% not a super.

That salmon is awesome. In my opinion, nothing beats a salmon with solid thin sattles with great color. Where is he from?
Michael Burton

What a perfect lead in. The reason I posted the pic above is because she is a definite F1 hypo that I produced and a sibbling to the female I sold Celia that just produced her incredible litter. I also wanted to support her integrity and show that it is impossible to determine whether a hypo is super from just its appearance. Others posting here obviously support this.

A big problem in this "industry" is that we do not know the biochemistry and genetics behind many of these morphs. Breeders are frequently too quick to characterize what they have and the heritability of the trait before they have an understanding of what is going on. Look at the hypos and how a dominant gene got mischaracterized as co-dominant. Obviously we may never know the percise mechanisms that cause some of these morphs. Without that understanding though, it is impossible to determine how one trait will manifest itself when mixed with other boas with different genetics. Not saying that is what happened in Celia's litter, but before jumping on the sperm retention band wagon or other speculative conclusion, we need to ask the most basic scientific question -- Is it repeatable? I believe Celia has sufficient motivation to repeat this pairing. LOL

BTW, sweet hypo.

>>I don't think you can tell just by the way they look. If you told me it was a poss super salmon I would think that one had a good chance of proving out to be one. But look at Ceila's litter, all of those babies are stunning with hardly any black and they are all F1's. Here is my salmon that came from a super salmon but it 100% not a super.
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Rick Staub
R&R Reptiles