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First, what is a hypo amel called? Or is that just a stupid combo, because they are both reductions of black? Has anyone ever made one?

Second, if I was going to probe, what size probe would I use on what size cornsnake? Ex. __mm on hatchlings, __mm on juveniles, and __mm on adults.

Third, I have been wondering if my snake is really an anery. It was sold to me as a "black albino" by Kathy Love in 2002, but it doesn't look like any other anery I have ever seen. It looks more like a ghost. Could it have been incorrectly labeled, or is it just a really light anery? I bred him to my female normal, so I guess I'll find out in 3 more years when his babies can have babies...

Thanks.

I think a hypo amel is just that. Hypoamelanistic. Hypo is just short for that.
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1) A hypo amel is called a "sunglow" or "hybino." Amel and hypo are different genes, although I don't know of anybody marketing "hybino" corns, probably because you can't tell the difference between one of those and a amel (at least that's how it is with Hondurans). In "corn snake terms" a sunglow is an amel without any white, which isn't always amel X hypo.

2) Probe depths are measured in subcaudal scales, not millimeters. An in-depth corn snake book or internet search will tell what the number of subcaudal scales male and females should probe at.

3) The snake in the photo looks like a ghost. Ghost is anery X hypo.

Tim

Third Eye

Weird timing, we posted at the same time.

A line bred AMELANISTIC where the background color is a nice orange, the saddles are red and the animal itself doesn't show any amount of white on it's body. Against what some breeders think, a SUNGLOW is neither a AMELANISTIC BLOODRED nor has to carry HYPOMELANISTIC as well. HYPOMELANISTIC may improve the colors of the snake, but the main criteria is "no white".

Def. from that german site. I thinks we need new words.

Tim, your in charge of straightening this mess out, and to enforce the use of new words.

Good luck

tom

For #2 I actually meant the size of the probe, not the depth it goes. Sorry if I was confusing, I'm like that alot.

Thanks.
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15 eggs in the incubator!
1.0 Anery Corn-Astro
0.1 Normal Corn-Cheyenne
0.1 Amel Striped Corn-Becky
1.0 Creamsicle-Diablo
0.1 Hypo Corn-Echo
1.0 Snow Corn-Frosty
1.0 Dachshund-Sandy
0.1 Beagle-Josie
0.1 Tabby-Nicki
2.7 Rats

Hypomelanistic or "Hypo" is a snake with black pigmentation greatly diminished but not absent.

Amel is A genetic cause of albinism or amelanistic (snakes that lack black pigment in both skin and eyes).

So a hypo amel does not make sense to me at least. Removing black from a snake that has no black. Unless the term is used loosely to mean something else like lighter and brighter?

I stated this some time ago, terms need to be used with one meaning. The english lahguage is the richest in the world. It's clear we can come up with a new word instead of using the same ones for different meanings.
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(Me)

1.3 Bearded Dragons (Eenie, Meanie, Minie and Moe is the Male

6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock) All Named George
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.2 1 MIA In the house I hope (All corns named Ray Guy
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
2 Okeettes I think? 1.1 youngens
ochrocephala oratrix 0.0.1? Adult, and a killer!
ochrocephala auropalliata 0.0.1? Adult
2.0 Dogs, Michigan, Doc
0.2 Cats,, Sassie and Spooky (all black cat)
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!) I call her (BOSS)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom

www.herpzilla.com

Sometimes there are anerys and ghosts in the same litter, depending on the parents. You can USUALLY tell the difference in hatchlings. But sometimes there are very light anerys or dark ghosts, and you have to guess. I would call it a ghost looking at it now. But sometimes the only way to be SURE is to breed it to a really obvious hypo or ghost and see what babies are produced. Sorry if it turns out to be a ghost and you were hoping for an anery. But it IS really pretty!

Actually, I would be ecstatic if it was a ghost! I think ghosts are one of my favorite morphs. No offense to anerys, of course, but I really hope he is a ghost, because I really want to make ghost, anery, and hypo stripes in a few years. I guess you can tell I really like striped cornsnakes too! I'll tell you in a few years when my hypo is big enough to breed whether he is a ghost or an anery.

Thanks!!!

>>When I saw your picture I thought it was a picture of one of my snakes, Pistol Pete.
When he hatched he was one of my darker "anerys"
His father was a ghost het amel and his mom a snow. It makes me wonder if mom wasn't het hypo.
Pistol Pete

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Corn snakes and rat snakes..No one can have just one.
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