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Male or female? (pics)

phiber_optikx Apr 18, 2006 12:10 AM

I know I could probe but am trying to keep the stress down for a few weeks. Any opinions? The vent is the first yellow spot that almost looks like an "X"




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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"
0.0.1 Black Ratsnake "Shadow"

Replies (14)

BillMcgElaphe Apr 18, 2006 11:31 AM

Looks female to me!
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Regards, Bill McGighan

Elaphefan Apr 18, 2006 04:25 PM

I can't tell from that photo. Bill may be right about it being a female. Here is a link to a page on Kathy Love's site on Rat Snake sexing. I think that probing is the only way to know for sure unless you find them in the act.

Did your snake just come out of cooling? I just warmed up a pair myself about two weeks ago. I am still waiting on the female to shed. Let me know if you need a mate for that snake. I have two York Co. Black Rats. I am hoping that I have a male and female from looking at their tails, but I am going to probe them to be sure.

Rick

Collage of snake sexing methods

phiber_optikx Apr 19, 2006 12:37 AM

It is a wc so it was "naturally cooled" I probed it today but am very unsure... It probed MAYBE a 1/4" if that. Wouldn't a 4' female be deeper than that? I was thinking that maybe somehow I missed the right opening but couldn't find anything else.... It is just as tame as any of my cb which surprises me since it has only been captive for 1 week. It gets its first meal tomorrow. I am interested to see how agressively it eats. My last wc black rat (6'1" was a rat wrecker and amazing to watch!.
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"
0.0.1 Black Ratsnake "Shadow"

phiber_optikx Apr 19, 2006 05:04 AM

On second thought, the probe was accurate. It should only go 1-3 subcaudal scales on a female. So the probe results make perfect since. Don't know why that didn't make sense before... slow day! Congrats it's a girl
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"
0.0.1 Black Ratsnake "Shadow"

Elaphefan Apr 19, 2006 04:20 PM

So, are you planning to breed her? She is a fine looking Black Rat.

I was able to get my rescue WC Blacks to take F/T mice with no problems by moving the mouse about in front of the opening to the hide. Both snakes eat like champs.

phiber_optikx Apr 19, 2006 09:45 PM

I think she will take f/t just fine. I fed her today but she wouldn't take it at first (the mouse jumped right on her head and freaked her a little) so I killed the mouse and left it in the cage. The mouse is gone now. I would love to breed her but don't have a male on hand. Next year she will be bred to my male orange albino. I would breed her this year but don't have a male and don't have anywhere great to keep the offspring. With my luck I would get 20 eggs and no buyers!
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0.1 Snow Corn "Hope"
1.0 Ball Python "Wilson" (Castaway)
1. Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Chunk" (Goonies)
.1 Orange Albino Black Ratsnake "Peaches"
0.0.1 Mexican Black Kingsnake "Onyx"
0.0.1 Black Ratsnake "Shadow"

wisema2297 Apr 19, 2006 06:11 PM

Just wondering...
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1.0 het albino ball
1.0 norm ball
0.3 norm ball
0.1 snow corn
1.0 butter corn
1.0 norm corn
1.0 southern plains rat
1.0 striped Cali king
1.0 western hog

guttersnacks Apr 23, 2006 08:00 PM

I caught those and gave them to Rick.
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Tom

"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

ophidiophile Apr 18, 2006 08:45 PM

I agree -- female.

-DT

STEVES_KIKI Apr 18, 2006 10:19 PM

i think its funny how everyone in this forum says its a boy and everyone in corn forum says its a male.... but i'm sticking with the male.... sorry everyone!!!!

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude)
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
.1 Miami Phase (Emily)
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, Anery, poss het Amel (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy [Emilys babies])
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss het Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Classic het Hypo, Stripe (Gracie Lou)

Rats:
1.1 Black rats (Cecily, Willard)

Cal Kings:
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Skunky, Dweezil)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard

~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLE~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)

STEVES_KIKI Apr 18, 2006 10:20 PM

grrr i mean this forum female.... corn male.... stupid stupid stupid me
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude)
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
.1 Miami Phase (Emily)
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, Anery, poss het Amel (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy [Emilys babies])
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss het Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Classic het Hypo, Stripe (Gracie Lou)

Rats:
1.1 Black rats (Cecily, Willard)

Cal Kings:
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Skunky, Dweezil)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard

~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLE~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)

BillMcgElaphe Apr 19, 2006 09:43 AM

It's easy to tell males.
They will aimlessly cruise around their cages all day and never stop to ask for directions.
(My wife made me add that.)
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Regards, Bill McGighan

STEVES_KIKI Apr 19, 2006 03:37 PM

thats funny b/c my male just chills ont he sofa and watches tv drinking a beer.... no really, my male is really lazy. when i go to feed him a rat he barely picks his head up.... lazy butt. but i love him regardless!
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude)
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
.1 Miami Phase (Emily)
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, Anery, poss het Amel (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy [Emilys babies])
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss het Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Classic het Hypo, Stripe (Gracie Lou)

Rats:
1.1 Black rats (Cecily, Willard)

Cal Kings:
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Skunky, Dweezil)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard

~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLE~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)

guttersnacks Apr 23, 2006 08:02 PM

I see enough taper right after the vent to make me think female, but there sure is a LOT of tail left after the vent, so that makes me second guess it. If I was betting, I'd say female.
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Tom

"The more people I meet, the more I like my snakes"

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