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Need Help Identifying This...

hammer Apr 19, 2006 05:40 AM

What do you guys think this is?


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Replies (9)

texasreptiles Apr 19, 2006 06:52 AM

looks like Trimeresurus medoensis

Randal

hammer Apr 19, 2006 01:13 PM

I should mention that it was sold to me, sight unseen, as a female Gumprechti from a source in Germany. I don't believe it's Gumprecht and I don't believe it's a female. My first thought was that "maybe" it was a pope, but the coloring seems light, although I've had some very light popes before. I should take receipt of the snake this week sometime.

joeysgreen Apr 19, 2006 04:27 PM

I was thinking pope's as well, why do you say otherwise? (I"m by no means an authority on the topic)

Ian

TimCole Apr 19, 2006 05:09 PM

Looks like a male for sure.
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hammer Apr 20, 2006 05:10 AM

I thought "pope" because my hands-on experience is limited to popes, gumprechtis, hagens, albolabris and trigons, so I drew from this experience to mentally classify it. Obviously, my experience is not that extensive. It appears to me now that this snake is from the Viridovipera grouping, perhaps a stejenegeri, popeorum, vogeli or medoensis. I don't believe it's even possible to be a gumprecht.

JStroud Apr 24, 2006 06:02 PM

I would also say Popes judging by the specimens I have worked with which all came in labelled as popeorum however there was massive differences between the patternations found on each individual, mostly based on the lateral orange/white line and its continuation and thickness down the body. It may be worth emailing WW (Wolfgang) as I know there is some work going into the reclassification of the Trimeresurus genus which should be a massive help for classification.

texasreptiles Apr 19, 2006 10:03 PM

Try this link

http://www.gernot-vogel.de/index.php?target=trimeresurus_gumprechti

Females seem to lack the reddish labial.
So, with that being said, that is probably a T. gumprechti.

Randal Berry

calsnakes Apr 20, 2006 01:53 PM

Looks like a boy popes viper to me......

texasreptiles Apr 20, 2006 03:30 PM

Calsnakes, what do you base that on?
(looks like a boy popes to me)

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