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Was wondering today if anyone has one.
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1.0 het albino ball
1.0 norm ball
0.3 norm ball
0.1 snow corn
1.0 butter corn
1.0 norm corn
1.0 southern plains rat
1.0 striped Cali king
1.0 western hog

I asked the same question a while back. The answer seems to be no. The closest thing is amel emoryi or guttatus. I have heard rumors of people seeing wild specimens, but nothing to back it up.

They are not kept or bred by very many people, except us native south Texas herpers, and I don't even know of anyone with F2 offspring. I will be breeding a pair of F1 siblings in a couple years, and hoping for interesting babies.

-Toby

I have 1.2 meahllmorum that are close to 3 yrs. old. They are probably F2 generation. I think someone is still breeding the Brazos Island and the reverse-striped snakes, but don't know who at this time. I could cross them with emoryi or guttatus to get the amel gene in them. I like the guttatus amels the best, so I'll probably do that in the future. That of course would make creamsicles eventually. I haven't heard of anyone finding an amel meahllmorum, yet. I'd like to be in the loop though.

Cheers...Terry

If I find any amel meahllmorum, you will be one of the first to know, Terry. I will probably be crossing an amel guttatus with meahllmorum next year, myself. -Toby

Didn't mean to leave you out of the meahllmorum keepers club. I should have said a few herpers in s.Texas and one in n.Michigan!

BTW, seen several DOR meahllmorum lately. Today I saw two in Kleberg County (one was in downtown Kingsville!) and one in Nueces County. Definitely the most abundant snake species here.

-Toby

No problem, Toby. Just wanted to throw my 2 cents worth in for the original poster.

You know the more I work with meahllmorum the more they become my favorite subspecies of the guttatus group. Although I plan to cross my meahllmorum with other subspecies to add some of their characteristics and mutations, I'll keep a pure meahllmorum line, and breed these other characteristics back to meahllmorum. There's just something about these guys I really like.

It's cool that they are easy to find in s. TX. I plan to make some visits to the area in the future, including the IHS this summer, and would like to see some of these snakes in the wild. I imagine that some mutations will be found before too awfully long, also.

Currently I have my male B.I. rat in with my Western Emory's rat. I plan to use an intergrade form from West TX, and/or N.M. to add new genes to my generic G. P. form in the future. I hope to do some field work in s. TX in a few yrs. too, once I move to the Southwest.

Good luck with your meahllmorums this summer, Toby. Later..

TC