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uninterested male?

sutorherp1 Apr 19, 2006 09:41 PM

Hey; I began breeding my hondurans a two years ago with my pair of tangerines. No eggs had failed and they had mated successfully. I kept the snakes by the window and did not change the lighting on them; my first time was an earlier than intended breeding (she got under a divider in the tub I had them in and they began mating around mid april). Since then, I sold the father-male and kept the female. I had gotten a few more breeder females raised up and have an adult amelanistic peach phase male from Don Shores (a proven breeder he states and I beleive).

This is where I fall into confusion. I had hibernated all my breeders and light cycled them from no light to now 12 hours. I raised the temperatures to 83degrees F and began feeding. A few of my females shed days within(few days before, or after depending on the female) when the temps hit 83. I had put my proven-breeder tangerine in with him for 3 days, no negative reaction between them, yet no positive reaction, they simply seemed to lay together, coiled or just massed. Today I tried another tangerine who shed a few days ago. No negative responce, some activity (excitement) but no jittery behavior, tail spasms or lining up (that I could see). My females have again gone into shed, a few weeks after their last one (within days of leaving hibernation). Could this be the out-of-hibernation shed, I know the two weeks after this shed is prime-time for breeding. I feel like my male is not interested, he had recently shed too.

I trust I hibernated correctly; no light, no feeding, correct temperatures, and very little action (usually none at all) in the cages. Some light could be seen from my shades (they aren't black) but I don't think enough to make a significant difference (my first pair mated with just slight temp decreases...natural).
Any clues? I almost feel like a failure; I've succesfully bred before (and intentionally) my snakes and hondurans. Any reasons my male would be uninterested? Those females are finnnnnnnne.
-Sean

Replies (2)

dniles Apr 20, 2006 06:42 PM

couple quick thoughts:

1. I'm told hondurans are late breeders and usually go after the female's second shed. Maybe they just need more time, its still early in the season.

2. I keep my males a little cooler than 83 degrees in breeding season since having them too warm may prohibit sperm production and dull their interest in mating.

2. is the male overweight? I've had fat males that had no interest in breeding.

3. if you have another male, put him in with your male you're trying to breed, which may stimulate competition and mating behavior.

4. are you sure you have a male?

It could be a variety of reasons, but don't panic yet, its still early in the season.

Dave
DNS Reptiles

sutorherp1 Apr 20, 2006 07:17 PM

He's not overweight and highly active, he's pretty slim compared to my female's girth. I'm not panicing and I think you are right about the early season. He is usually kept cooler than my females, I've been watching the temps carefully. I've not sexed him but I shall, he has male characteristics (doesn't store fat like the females do) and I trust Don Shore's sexing, but I shall check again. Sadly I don't have another male to "combat" him with. I'd like to hear more info from others as well. Thanks for your input!
-Sean

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