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I thought this was dang cute. Enjoy

quit trying to sell your monitors by posting "cute" pictures.

i know you have a 1000 baby quota to meet, but this is too blatant.

ha!
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robyn@proexotics.com

Pro Exotics Reptiles

very nice!

Some of us can appreciate beauty without the need to go out and buy these.
Thanks for sharing.

"Some of us can appreciate beauty without the need to go out and buy these."

hahahahahaha
Are you bragging Steeve? Yes, some of us 'others' lack willpower. It would be sooooooooo easy, they look so nice, and if their personalities are anything like their parents, it is very hard to resist the temptation.

--Robert

No not bragging, I like ackies but not enough to keep them. However I understand how precautious there establishment is, only a few 1000s produced world wide is nothing compared to the 100,000s imports every year, guess this makes it easy to understand they will vanish from herpetoculture once breeders stop producing them. It’s not a matter of if but when they stop. So yes my advise to anyone is to go out and get some if you like them before they are no longer available.

You know my love for varanids is both selfish and obsessive, I keep mine away from the public eye. But then again mine won’t vanish till I am gone.

Rgds

>only a few 1000s produced world wide is nothing compared to the
>100,000s imports every year, guess this makes it easy to
>understand they will vanish from herpetoculture once breeders stop
>producing them. It’s not a matter of if but when they stop.

I might have disagreed with you three years ago, it seems they were everywhere, but my how times changed (actually the only thing that's changed is I can see it now). All the inbreeding stuff seems to have made matters worse, people were trying to mix it up, and the bloodlines were completely muddled.

I was just kidding with you, I know you have obsessive issues too (a common reptile keeper trait), just different tastes.

I do hope someone gets some reds (real ones), and runs with it. I'm doing my best, but I'm not so good.

--Robert

I know you where only kidding, should you have any kind of malice I would know by now!

The work Frank has don with small varanids is amazing, however it is also amazingly fragile. An other reputed herpetoculturist has produced 1000s of 1000s lacertas in the 80s, these could be obtained all over Europe, they even kept a decent price in comparison to the ackies dramatic drop in value. When he stop producing them, they all vanished from the herp scene within a decade, none can be fund today.

Of curse this also applies to other retiles, but lizards are particular in the sense that, unlike snakes they cant be kept dormant, its easy to keep that rare pair of white eye pythons in the lower drawer of your rack system until the ball python novelty where’s off, and demands starts flowing, however lizards are more demanding husbandry wise, keeping them requires time and efforts.
This is why medium size varanids have very little chance to be a herpetocultural success, and why I don’t promote them as captives, I fear they will only bring new legislations to forbid us from keeping them.
In this sense I am selfish, I am obsessed with my right to keep them, I tried to help others with there varanids but failed.

or leave them loose? Just wondering how you get the little guys out on the monitors that are for sale. It seems like a few of them have themselves wedged in there nice and tight making it a bit of a challenge to get them out.

No sir. The intent is to allow lots of different tight hiding places. If its not tight, I do not think its a hiding place.

Also if they were screwed together, How would you get them out? Also it would greatly limit the different possibilities I now use. Cheers