well we went to "the spot" 65-70 degrees full sun Tuolume county.. perfect conditions great rocks and logs and just a good vibe.......and still no mt king.. salamanders.. sierra garter, gopher snake, and a baby rattler...left em all there .and took pics... rick staub.what does it take.?my gosh i just would love to see one of these suckers in the wild.. i could imagine lookin in those cracks and just seein those colors..man oh man.i wish..thats all i could do......maybe its to early,, maybe ....or maybe i just suck at findin these suckers....haha.. well maybe next weekend will be better but it looks like rain.....well keep us posted if any of you have any luck. and any help would be appreciated......thanks ,pine