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Is anyone selling these this season? Since my land lord said it is ok for me to keep a couple as long as I don't breed them I figure that I can get a 100% het female and in three years, by which time I will have moved, she'll be ready for my male 50% and thus in three to five years I get a clown. So I've been keeping an eye out for 100% females but no one seems to have any for sale. Whats up with that?
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How do you figure you will have a Clown in three to five years with a 50% possible het male. Why not buy a 100% het male, and multiple poss het females or a het female......skimping on the male is not a good idea, and really not a good idea if you can afford a 100% het female.

Dave

I don't disagree with getting the 100% het male. But if he chooses to proove out his 50%er then hes right about the time frame - getting a 100% het female now - even if the male doesn't proove in 2 or 3 years if he holds back the ph male offpring hes bound to hit on one within another year or two. Frankly I'd give it a try (especially if your snake is a pet that you'd like to prove and arent in a hurry) but if the male doesn't hit on the first try - sell all the possible het offspring and buy a 100% het male.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.34.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.4 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.0 Lizards of unknown origin

The original post makes it sound like they are expecting a Clown, which is not necessarily the case with a poss het male.

I guess my pint was that if he picks up the 100% het female - then yea even if the possible doesn't prove to be a het - it should take him 5 or 6 years to produce a clown with just the mothers genes.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.34.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.4 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.0 Lizards of unknown origin

You should see plenty of them hatching out this season. I suspect with the new clown mixes that came out last year - there was a big push in the clown breeding department this season.
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.34.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.4 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.0 Lizards of unknown origin

i suspect you'll have a hard time finding someone willing to sell a lone female het. most breeders only sell them as het pairs or het males. rarely do you see them selling lone females.

Really? I've bought three lone females without a problem. Who is only selling them as pairs?
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.34.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.4 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.0 Lizards of unknown origin

do you ever check the classifieds? i didn't say it couldn't be done but most want to sell them in pairs unless they have a surplus of females. otherwise they would end up with a bunch of leftover males.

The Male 50% that I have is a very loved pet. He is also (some of you may have read posts in which I've mentioned this) the snake that I think may have something special going on with him. Spot on head, light, lots of yellow, more and nicer flames than any proven yellow belly that I have seen... I don't think he is a yellow belly because he doesn't have the granite like edging on his belly but I think the breeder may have accidentilly put a het clown with something special however, until that proves out he's a 50% clown and I am very hopefull. My plan is to breed him to a 100% clown female and keep all of his offspring. If he doesn't prove for clown on the first attempt than I will put a 100% male with her next time around and just to be sure eventually try him on a Homozygous clown just to be sure. I will put mt 50% on his own daughters when they are ready to see if I am right about him having something else going on. Either way 3-5 years is about accurate for a time frame of when I will have a clown. I don't currently own any photo equip but I should be able to get some this summer and I will post some pics of him to see if anyone else thinks he looks unusual or if I am just nuts lol. Thanks for all of your replys.
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