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I removed the bad egg last week and now it looks like the discoloration is spreading through out the 3 eggs around it. It doesn't really look like mold, its a purple/yellowish tint thats spreading. Should I be worried about this, Im already starting to worry. How do I stop this?

Thanks,
Kyle

The first thing I would do, is to candle the eggs. See if they are fertile. This can be done by viewing blood vessels right below the egg shell itself. If you don't view any at all, then there is a good chance that the eggs you have are shelled over slugs. It happens.
If you do see vessels, then you have fertile eggs.
I've had eggs that for one reason or another, have had these "spots" on them as well. Some call them water windows.
Like there was not enough calium to shell the complete egg.
But, what you are decribing is not that. If you see these "areas" growing.
A live egg, produces what I call "fungus guard". They keep mold and fungus at bay. A dead egg, does not, and surcomes to mold and fungus within hours of being laid.
So, what I would suggest, is to candle the eggs, and find out if in fact they are fertile. And then go from there.
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Ron Billingsley
www.ronbillingsleyreptiles.com

They are fertile, I have candled them before.

Kyle

Heres a pic, there all fertile (except for the bad egg I already removed). What should I do?

Thanks,
Kyle

A pic of where the moldy egg use to be.

I would suggest thoroughly cleaning with a dilute hydrogen peroxide solution, followed by sealing the entire area with Band-aid brand liquid bandage. All Molds require air to survive, so sealing it in with liquid bandage should help keeping it from coming back. If it is just a window that is developing from where the mold was, liquid bandage will also take care of that.

Good luck
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when life hands you lemons, make super lemons, bumblebees, etc...

It sounds as if they may not be fertile.
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

Didn't you say you were using some kind of athlet's foot medication on them. Or some kind of anti-fungus stuff. Maybe that is what is dicoloring the eggs.

No its not, at least I don't think so. Last night I cleaned off all the gold bond and its still spreading.

OK - if it's till spreading - I would probably try the hydrogen peroxide wash and then cover them with liquid bandage and hope for the best.

Of course I haven't a clue what I'm doing - it just sounds like the next logical step.

How far along are they?
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.34.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.4 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.0 Lizards of unknown origin

Just got off the phone with Sean from Exotics by Nature. Really great guy, told me to use liquid bandaid also. Just did it, hopefully I will see some good results.

Thanks,
Kyle

Sean is great isn't he!

LOL - good luck with them I hope it works!
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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.34.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.4 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.0 Lizards of unknown origin

I haven't been nervous at all, until I encountered the mold problem. Now I know what guys are talking about when there stressing out. Im feeling it. Yeah, Sean is a really cool guy. Not all breeders are as friendly as him!!

Kyle

Try liquid Band-aid it will seal those spots and still allow the eggs to breathe.Terry

Though you may see some viening, the eggs could be dying. The colors you describe don't sound healthy. I know healthy eggs can survive next to bad ones. I don't know for a fact, nor have I seen any studies that show bad eggs kill healthy ones - although it does seem possible.

If they are dying, it's likely from the inside out and not the other way, so IMHO, Goldbond, peroxide or any other medication is not going to help.

I hope they do survive. It sucks when they die.
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Jay A. Martin
Jay Martin Reptiles

While eggs might ordinarily be able to resist mold, most likely by keeping the spores from germinating, putting them under a high load of mold spores can lead to infection of even healthy eggs. Furthermore, once the mold spores have germinated on the bad egg, the actively growing mold can spred to the good eggs as well (actively growing fungi and fungal spores can be drastically different in their ability to infect). Analogously, you might be able to resist getting a cold, but if you are kept in 20' x 20' unventilated room with 50 other people that have the flu, what do you think is going to happen?

I seriously doubt that only the eggs in contact with the bad egg happen to be dying from the inside, more likely they were just overcome by the actively growing mold. I think it is entirely possible to save the eggs, but I wouldn't be that suprised if the mold just keeps coming back.
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when life hands you lemons, make super lemons, bumblebees, etc...

There is NO mold on the currect good eggs. Its a window or waterspot that is spreading making the eggs unstable. Falling apart from the inside out. I am doing my best to save them, fingers crossed.

Kyle

If you got to wall mart get some liquid Band-aid. Just spred it over the bad part of the eggs. That should keep it from spreading. It has been used several times, Sean from Exotics By Nature used it and you can see it on his website. Thanks David.....Good luck

Hey David

Sean and Eric Sandoval told me they highly recommended it, so I used it. Looks like its still spready a little bit. But I was told it takes a few days for it to take full effect.

Kyle

sometimes windows can spread from just being too wet. I know of friends in the past that have had this problem and just dried them out a little bit. Just a thought. I use a mix of vermiculite and only make it slightly damp.
Kim
Good luck