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Ok, a few months ago I posted a corn and asked what it was thinking it was a creamcicle. This is a new pic, just after eating, not a great picture, but I did not want to fuss with her after the feed. Shes been on small mice for a month. Every week or so. And I swear she would eat twice that.
Also suppose to be a female. I do not probe small snakes and shes to big to pop now.
I wish all my snakes ate like her.
tom
The colors look just like an amel het for anery that I had. They look like an orange creamsicle, very nice. Mine had some aberrant pattern, zig-zag dorsal pattern. She was produced by breeding a snow to an amel. Over 4 breeding seasons I produced about 100 hatchlings from this pair. The first year, all amels het for anery, normal pattern. From the second year on about half the hatchlings had aberrant patterns. I only produced the one orange looking one. Kept her until last year when I was out of space.
Best of luck with that one.
Funny you say that, I thought it looked between a cream and an amel. I'll let her digest a bit, then take some good pics. I just thought she was growing fast for 3 months old.
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ontogeny recapitulate phylogeny
Charlie Mike
God knows all, and as man finds parts of that all, god changes those parts of all. Then he laughs at us!!!
(Me)
1.3 Bearded Dragons (Eenie, Meanie, Minie and Moe is the Male
6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock) All Named George
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.2 1 MIA In the house I hope (All corns named Ray Guy
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
2 Okeettes I think? 1.1 youngens
ochrocephala oratrix 0.0.1? Adult, and a killer!
ochrocephala auropalliata 0.0.1? Adult
2.0 Dogs, Michigan, Doc
0.2 Cats,, Sassie and Spooky (all black cat)
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!) I call her (BOSS)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom
This was her after a fuzzy mouse
I see, just a little more space though between the saddles,, I'm about to post an amel zigzag I should get this week.
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ontogeny recapitulate phylogeny
Charlie Mike
God knows all, and as man finds parts of that all, god changes those parts of all. Then he laughs at us!!!
(Me)
1.3 Bearded Dragons (Eenie, Meanie, Minie and Moe is the Male
6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock) All Named George
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.2 1 MIA In the house I hope (All corns named Ray Guy
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
2 Okeettes I think? 1.1 youngens
ochrocephala oratrix 0.0.1? Adult, and a killer!
ochrocephala auropalliata 0.0.1? Adult
2.0 Dogs, Michigan, Doc
0.2 Cats,, Sassie and Spooky (all black cat)
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!) I call her (BOSS)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom
all the hatchlings i've ever seen were ALOT smaller than that... are you sure its 3 months old? its moer the size and has the appetite of a yearling...
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude)
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
.1 Miami Phase (Emily)
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, Anery, poss het Amel (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy [Emilys babies])
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss het Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Classic het Hypo, Stripe (Gracie Lou)
Rats:
1.1 Black rats (Cecily, Willard)
Cal Kings:
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Skunky, Dweezil)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~
1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard
~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLE~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)
>>all the hatchlings i've ever seen were ALOT smaller than that...
My creamsicles produced large hatchlings compared to pure corns. They averaged about 1.5 inches longer and were more robust. All but the first litter fed voraciously on pinkies almost immediately. One individual showed a strong aggressive streak, and had to be seperated. A few individuals from the fist litter were force-fed on pinkies at least once before feeding volutarilly.
Most had fewer, larger blotches than a pure corn. Several showed tendencies towards partial zigzag, striping, and motley patterns, esp. the last two litters. Babies varied from almost indistiguishable from a pure amel (pinkish w/a hint of yellow and orange red), to classic creamy-yellow and orange. All turned typical creamy-yellow and orange by two years old. After 4 years they begin to take on more yellow, and the orange becomes more pastel toned.
Both of my adults grew into outstandingly large and mellow animals. I have seen one female baby, hatched in '02 who is doing very well. Pics show Yolanda, Mr T, and Kathy's Creamsicle, all recent pics.
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0.1 Creamsicle Cornsake "Yolanda"
1.0 Bairds Ratsnake "Steely Dan"
It has to be close to that. I picked it up at a show, The guy had about 150 of them, some thin and apparently did not even have their first pinky. I just asked for one of the larger ones that ate and a female.
First pic I posted later is maybe 3 feeding after I got her, and is a bit misleading in size, she has a big meal in her there too. She ate the first pinky so fast I moved to big fuzzies fast. then he was at his cage as I had mice for hognose. I took the smallest mouse, thwacked it and figured lets see what shes got in her. Again, just took it down like nothing.
Now I know some say this may be power feeding, but she gets thin between each meal, shows no signs of excess weight. Before we knew what that was I power fed with tricks back in the 70's.
I could trick a 4' retic eat 3 large rats.
No tricks here, she is a pig. and after I feed her a mouse, I can tell she would actually take a second. and 2-3 days after she eats shes roaming for more. I figures shes eating plenty.
Still not sure if 100% creamcicle?
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ontogeny recapitulate phylogeny
Charlie Mike
God knows all, and as man finds parts of that all, god changes those parts of all. Then he laughs at us!!!
(Me)
1.3 Bearded Dragons (Eenie, Meanie, Minie and Moe is the Male
6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock) All Named George
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.2 1 MIA In the house I hope (All corns named Ray Guy
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
2 Okeettes I think? 1.1 youngens
ochrocephala oratrix 0.0.1? Adult, and a killer!
ochrocephala auropalliata 0.0.1? Adult
2.0 Dogs, Michigan, Doc
0.2 Cats,, Sassie and Spooky (all black cat)
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!) I call her (BOSS)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom
The colors look pretty close to me - if she is a cream, the blotches should turn more of a pale orange, while the backgroud will become yellowish cream.
Hard to tell with pics on a 'puter - colors can get messed up easily.
Mr T out on Patrol...
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0.1 Creamsicle Cornsake "Yolanda"
1.0 Bairds Ratsnake "Steely Dan"
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