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Question for you ratsnake fans out there

jfirneno Apr 30, 2006 12:03 PM

In the last few weeks I've seen two different ads for e. porphoracea latacincta. One is for a breeder pair in Germany (for $5,500 !!). So now I've seen captive stock from coxi, latacincta and vaillanti. Has anyone seen any other subspecies of porphoracea around? There are several beautiful ones out there but I've yet to hear of any in captivity (at least not in the US).
Thanks for reading
John

Replies (7)

chris_harper2 May 02, 2006 04:21 PM

I have been lucky enough to see all three subspecies in person, although never an adult E. p. latacincta.

The one I'd really like to see is the nominate form like the specimen pictured in Snakes of Thailand and their husbandry. After seeing hatchling latacincta, however, I suspect the specimen in that book was a hatchling.

How many subspecies are there? Off the top of my head I can only think of the nominate plus the three already mentioned. Unfortunately, I lost all of my herpetology books in a flood so I can't go check.
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Current snakes:

0.0.1 Gonyosoma oxycephala - Java locale (green)

2.2 Gonyosoma janseni - Seleyar locale (all black)

jfirneno May 02, 2006 09:56 PM

Chris:
I also would like to see the nominate show up. But other very pretty subspecies that I also would love to have are pulchra (southwest China) and kawakamii (Taiwan). There's also hainana (Hainan island) but it's not much different from vaillanti.

I guess only time will tell.

>>I have been lucky enough to see all three subspecies in person, although never an adult E. p. latacincta.
>>
>>The one I'd really like to see is the nominate form like the specimen pictured in Snakes of Thailand and their husbandry. After seeing hatchling latacincta, however, I suspect the specimen in that book was a hatchling.
>>
>>How many subspecies are there? Off the top of my head I can only think of the nominate plus the three already mentioned. Unfortunately, I lost all of my herpetology books in a flood so I can't go check.
>>-----
>>Current snakes:
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>>0.0.1 Gonyosoma oxycephala - Java locale (green)
>>
>>2.2 Gonyosoma janseni - Seleyar locale (all black)

Kayvon May 24, 2006 05:58 PM

This is my yearling male latacincta. Almost all the juvenile color is gone now. Still sharp.
Image

Kayvon May 25, 2006 10:37 PM

np

jfirneno May 26, 2006 09:24 AM

Are you in the US?

How would you compare the keeping requirements for latacincta to other porphyracea?

Regards
John

Kayvon May 28, 2006 04:51 PM

I keep them the same as I keep my coxi. Cool cage with a small area of heat. I still like them to have temp choices. I use flexwatt for most of my colubrids. Kings, milks, etc. I have the heat tape under the cage about a third of the way back from the front which heats the front half of the cage nicely. My mandarins, coxi, latacincata, situla, and persicus I have the heat tape right at the front of the cage, set a little lower and I vent those cages better for less heat retension. The situla bask after every meal but the rest don't seem to use it but it is there if they would like it. My coxi is gravid now and basks constantly at 82F. The bulk of the cage is at 69-72 so it would seem that there are times when they require some extra heat(or at least will use it if available). Robyn at ProExotics has described the setup they use somewhere on this forum. You should check it out. They use some kind of soil with buried pots and heat lamps with huge temp gradients. They have had tons of success with asian rats, so the proof, as they say, is in the pudding.

jfirneno May 28, 2006 05:11 PM

The latacincta are from even farther south than the coxi. I was interested to know if they would be more prone to using the warmer side of the cage. Apparently not. Thanks for the info. Good luck with your coxi eggs.
Regards
John

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