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But i thought you guys may like it as it is only Milksnake in the cross.

04 Hypo Pueblan x het albino Nelsons
The F2 Clutch gave me 8 normal looking males and this stunning Hybino female
as far as i know the only one of its type.

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NICE!! I love Hybrids, and have several clutches incubating now from some interesting matches. Its always exciting to see what hatches!!!

Scott

Nice! You should probably check your breeding records from whoever you got it from. Looks like an albino honduran in shed dude!

>>Nice! You should probably check your breeding records from whoever you got it from. Looks like an albino honduran in shed dude!

Here is the link to my original post in the hybrid forum, it explains more.
http://forums.kingsnake.com/view.php?id=1057432,1057432

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Very pretty snake but as you state, it's a hybrid so it's not anything I would get involved with. If I were into hybrids, that would be worth working with, very nice.

>>But i thought you guys may like it as it is only Milksnake in the cross.
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>>04 Hypo Pueblan x het albino Nelsons
>>The F2 Clutch gave me 8 normal looking males and this stunning Hybino female
>>as far as i know the only one of its type.

genetically speaking, that results's sort of inexplicable: the only way i understand that you can produce a hybrid albino is if both parents are at least het for albino. any chance the hypo pueblan was actually a hybrid and was itself het albino? I have a vague recollection of talking to a fella who had crossed to produce albino (I think) pueblans, perhaps from ruthveni?--and then had crossed back and forth to pueblans several times, feeling that after several generations of crossing back to pure pueblan he could call the stock simply "pueblan" and not hybrids. I disagreed at the time. But i wonder if any of those got bred into the apparently legit "hypo" pueblan line, accounting for a het trait passing along unnoticed and even unaware, which could account for your stunning animal.

peace
terry

He said that the snake in question was an F2 of the initial hypo pueblan X het amel nelsons. Obviously, the F1's used to breed for this F2 both received the amel gene from the het nelsons as well as the hypo gene, which means he was quite lucky when selecting which offspring to breed.

Chances of the F1's getting the amel gene (making it a double het hybino): 50%

Chances of the F2's getting both amel and hypo from double het F1's: 1/16, or 6.25%

So the total chances of this occurring this way are 1/64, or 1.5625% chance. I get this because of the 6.25% chance, times 50%, times another 50% (since there were 2 siblings that received the amel gene).

Those are incredibly small odds of such a thing happening... The hybrid gods were definitely on his side

*PLEASE correct me if I'm wrong in any way what-so-ever!!! Thanx*
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please take it to the hybrid forum...

I should have said that the "genetics gods were in your favor" as recessive traits and heredity were being discussed, not the fact that they were found in a hybrid animal.
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You could maybe not click on a post that is above you...

I not a big hyrbid fan, but its cool that the color of that animal is orange and not red. Just please, please be honest about them being hybrids, otherwise we will see a hypo nelsons show up and not know if its pure or not.

Best,
Vinny
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