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both leos are normal adult females any hets are unknown. the pet store took them in on a trade and have no info other than they are 1 1/2 to 2 years old.
i do plan on breeding them next year(or this year if it is not to late?)so my question is what is the best male to breed to these females? i know this is a newb question. i know albinos,blizards and patternless you need both leos to be at least het to get a homozygous baby. what morphs are the line bred ones? wher i could get some visual differances in the first batch? sorry if i come off a little uneducated but ive been breeding snakes for years and these are my first geckos.
adam
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hybrid breeders association
0.1.0 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0.0 snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0.0 amel corn unknown hets(4ft 8inch long)
1.0 sinacorn
1.1 kenyan sand boas
0.1 mbk
0.1 albino nelsons
0.0.1 snapping turtles
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle

Geckos are a bit different than snakes...actually alot. You should wait untill next year to breed, and in the mean time, learn as much as you can. It never a good idea to start breeding something that you don't know much about.

im not saying i dont know much about them. ive been reading for months. husbandry will not be an issue. its the genetics and morphs that im having trouble finding all of the info on. if you read the post all im asking is what morphs are line bred? so that i can find a proper male for my females. im looking into just plain hypo tangarine carrot tails. from what ive read the carrot tail is a line bred trait as well as the tangerine, but what about the hypo? in snakes its a recessive trait but it appears that in leos it is quite the opposite and is only judged by those who are creating the offspring(i.e. the diff between hypo and super hypo being only reduced spotting) so im asking for a little more understanding
adam
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hybrid breeders association
0.1.0 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0.0 snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0.0 amel corn unknown hets(4ft 8inch long)
1.0 sinacorn
1.1 kenyan sand boas
0.1 mbk
0.1 albino nelsons
0.0.1 snapping turtles
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle

Theres still a difference between reading about raseing/breeding geckos, and raseing/breeding them. Reading about farming doesn't make you a farmer.

dude,
whats your deal.
im not even coming close to saying im an expert or a leo breeder. I AM HERE ASKING A QUESTION trying to LEARN and your hasseling me about breeding. so what if i want to breed them i know i can do it!, i know i can take great care of them! all i dont know is the genetics. thats why i asked the question.

grow up people come here for help not headaches

ive been breeding reptiles for about 10 years(turtles and snakes, snakes mostly) and want to try something new to me and i THOUGHT leos would be good, but if asking questions gets this kind of response on the forum that is supposed to HELP people find the answers then maybe ill try something else or maybe someone else will answer my posts repectively

please dont respond as i will not read any more posts from unrespectful posters
adam
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hybrid breeders association
0.1.0 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0.0 snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0.0 amel corn unknown hets(4ft 8inch long)
1.0 sinacorn
1.1 kenyan sand boas
0.1 mbk
0.1 albino nelsons
0.0.1 snapping turtles
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle

Chill dude, I just said it woulden't be a good idea to breed untill your used to leo personalities. As for the male, it really depends on what your going for. What you want your hatchlings look like. No one can tell you that unless you say tell us how you want them to look.

its hard to tell tone of voice when writing. i thought you were telling me not to breed at all due to inexperience. sorry i took it the wrong way. well since we have each others attention... is the hypo and super hypo traits recessive genes or line bred? i personally like patternless and albinos the super expensive stuff is not for me i doo like the tangerines and sunglows but do see that the cost is worth it. i do plan on getting some blazing blizzards from lllreptile when i have some more experience with leos. the adults im getting are already fat and happy so ill keep them for awhile b4 i get hatchlings. im also already looking into het amel fat tails but it will be awhile.
again sorry i thought u were being a di@$, its just a misunderstanding
adam
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hybrid breeders association
0.1.0 normal corn het hypo,anery
1.0.0 snow corn het hypo,anery,amel
1.0.0 amel corn unknown hets(4ft 8inch long)
1.0 sinacorn
1.1 kenyan sand boas
0.1 mbk
0.1 albino nelsons
0.0.1 snapping turtles
0.0.1 3 lined mud turtle

I believe that hypo and super hypo traits are line bred but I'm only about 70% sure

And it's ok. Misinturpreting is an easy thing to do on forums, or chats. (it's also something I can't spell ) And I admit I was a little short with the farmer thing I'm sorry.

The best advice I can give you is to experiment. Try breeding different morphs, and see what you get. Good luck!

I would perhaps try a normal and see what you get then you will know what hets you may have. If money is no issue you can also breed with a blizzard, or an albino. That would be neat. If nothing else, you will have the fun of breeding the geckos, and you will learn what hets you might have, and end up with some pretty babies, that I'm sure you will have no problem selling. By the way, Nighthawk is my brother, and I don't hink he meant to come across rudely, I think he just was thinking that it might be better to wait until you see the personality of your females and then get a male with an accorfing personality to help with a good personality in you babies. I know that was not the question, but... anyway, have you thought about the African fattails, or the Tremper Giants, that would be fun, the Africans are supposed to be more laid back and friendly and the giants, well, I just think that would be really neat to have a gecko at least twice the size of a normal.... so what do you think you will do about the breeding?? If you are looking for specific trait info, and genetics, I think it might be best to find out what hets you have, which you can do by breeding and sometimes by markings on your geckos.... good luck!!!