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Neonate enclose size and setup.

Dankos May 02, 2006 09:58 PM

I have contacted Rico at Signal Herp, and am hoping to have a small chondro in a short time. I still have time to fool around with his housing though. Im thinking about a 12"X12"X12", with a big apple herp proportional thermostat on a ceramic heat bulb. I already have the encloseure set up with nothing in it but some perches hot glued to the sides. I am controlling its temp with a rheostat, but am switching to the thermostat soon. I was going to do paper towels or newspaper on the bottom, with a decent sized water dish. Would moving water be a good idea to increase humidity, and possibly encourage drinking? And would a hot glue gun be suitable for ataching perches, or should I get silicone aquarium glue? Any other suggestions are welcome.

Replies (9)

MegF May 02, 2006 11:16 PM

Most people like to have removable perches, especially for neonates. They can clean the enclosure without having to remove the animal from the perch and possibly damaging the spine. You can use hook and eye setup to attach the branches in a temporary fashion or use a rubber piece slipped between the branch and side of the enclosure. The only problem I encountered doing that was that the rubber eventually shrunk and the branch would get loose.

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.4~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin,Minuet
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
0.1~Old black Lab~ Callie (RIP)
2.0~fat cats~Topper, Briscoe
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....
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MegF May 02, 2006 11:19 PM

I would just go with a bowl and a small one at that. Someone on the chondro forum posted about a small neonate that drowned in a larger water bowl, so I went with a smaller one until mine got a little larger. Spraying once or twice a day is usually enough to provide decent humidity, and I spray the animal directly at night when they would usually be active and drinking off themselves.

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.4~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin,Minuet
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
0.1~Old black Lab~ Callie (RIP)
2.0~fat cats~Topper, Briscoe
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....
www.franclycac.com

Plisskin May 08, 2006 06:38 PM

What kind of camera and lens do you use when you take pics of your chondro Meg?

MegF May 08, 2006 08:44 PM

I have an Olympus Camedia 5050 with a standard lens that comes with it. I can't tell you what power it goes to as it's in the shop being repaired right now (perfect timing...I've got a chondro changing color and a cornsnake with new eggs I want pics of). I does take pretty good macro stuff and when I get it back, I'm going to play around with it a little more as far as long exposure with a tripod.

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.4~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin,Minuet
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
0.1~Old black Lab~ Callie (RIP)
2.0~fat cats~Topper, Briscoe
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....
www.franclycac.com

plisskin May 11, 2006 11:36 AM

Takes great pics. I have a Nikon 8008S film camera and a Sony DSC digital. You and your camera take excellent pics.

MegF May 11, 2006 06:34 PM

I hope to get more soon!

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.4~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin,Minuet
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
0.1~Old black Lab~ Callie (RIP)
2.0~fat cats~Topper, Briscoe
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....
www.franclycac.com

Plisskin May 11, 2006 08:06 PM

That snake looks healthy.

MegF May 12, 2006 12:02 AM

She should. That's another baby picture of Tempest!

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1.0~amel corn~C.S.
1.4~Aztec Okeetee corns~Coatl,Maya,Acatl,Tepin,Minuet
0.1.1~Green tree python~Tempest, Whisper
0.2~Rhodesian Ridgebacks~Akilah, Ona
0.1~Old black Lab~ Callie (RIP)
2.0~fat cats~Topper, Briscoe
3.0~Horses~Zaarah,Galliano,Achilles.....
www.franclycac.com

bsharrah May 03, 2006 07:51 AM

Take Meg's comment to heart and go with removable perches. I am attaching a pic of two perch supports I use or have used in the past. The first one uses two pieces of square acrylic rod attached with aquarium sealant. The second one is made with acrylic squares which can be purchased through many plastic suppliers. The two smaller squares are glued to the larger using super glue but is attached to the tub using aquarium sealant.

Don't put yourself in a position where you have to remove the animal from the perch for cleaning. I have one chondro that has a fractured spine from when it was young. Their spines are very delicate and the fracture didn't appear until it was over a year old when I noticed it had a hunchback. X-rays taken this week revealed the healed fracture.

Be careful using enclosures with screened tops. They are very difficult to maintain humidity without cutting off ventilation. I have used them in the past with ceramic heaters but will never use them again. Opinions regarding this style of enclosure vary but I would consider alternatives.

Good luck,
Bart
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