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red wigglers as feeders?

captotterboy May 03, 2006 08:45 AM

I am still trying to find a way to add a fourth feeder to my chameleons diet (as i will not have a chance to get some silkworms until the next show i can go to that sells them with the food and everything for cheap) I use superworms, waxworms, and crickets now. I heard that red wigglers and other bait worms are ok food a little dietary variety. they are cheap and easy to get, even if they are a little messy. any thoughts?

also, do i need to put veggies in the cage for him to eat if all the plants in there already are edible?

Jeff

by the way. Charlie just shed and he looks great underneath. The neon blue he has really is great. I will be posting pictures hopefully tomorrow or friday afternoon.

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lele May 03, 2006 10:33 AM

*butterworms for occasional treat (fatty but very high in calcium)
*roaches, yummm! Expensive and takes time to get a colony going but great to have on hand - no smell, will eat anything, thus easy to gutload
*flies - your can order fly larvae and pupae from grubco & skipios. this will give him good eye/tongue exercise
*phoenix worms. get the large ones and let some pupate to adult flies (black soldier fly - native, non-pest)
*you can order silkworms online

What I have heard of worms is that they may not stick to chams tongue, but the bigger concern is what they have been fed on. The are decomposers and may have ingested toxins. I'd be careful with them.

Grubco.com has a nice little sampler pack for about $18 shipped.

so there's my 2-, maybe 3-cents
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Chameleon Help & Resource Info
1.0 Nosy Be Panther Chameleon - Cyrus
0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
1.1 Side-blotched lizards - swifty and blotcha for now
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh Died 4/21/06
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha donated to science 4/4/06
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

captotterboy May 03, 2006 11:16 AM

I just got a thing of phoenix worms, but lots of them were not alive when they got there. How do i make them pupate? What do they look like when they do?

Oh, another question. I have found it is rather easy to let mealworms turn into the beatles. Are these any more healthy for charlie that the worms? I think i have asked this before, but i forgot the answer.... sorry. "Jeff participates in class but does not retain information"

~me

lele May 03, 2006 12:44 PM

they are likely pupating - all dark and sort of flat? Keep them in the container and you will get adults. Just check them everyday, if they do not have room to spread their wings they won't be much good to your cham.

Mealie and super beetles are less nutritious and have more chitin (exoskeleton) to harder to digest but an occasioanl one or two is fine. The supers can emit a rather offensive (defensive from their point of view) odor.

Here is the webpage on how to pupate the supers. Darwin LOVES them in their pupal stage! I don't know why but he will always go for one.
super rearing

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Chameleon Help & Resource Info
1.0 Nosy Be Panther Chameleon - Cyrus
0.1 Veiled Chameleon - Luna. She's now hanging from her big jungle gym in the sky
1.0 Beardie - Darwin
1.1 Side-blotched lizards - swifty and blotcha for now
0.2 felines - Kyndra and Lita
0.1 African Clawed Frog - Skipper
0.1 Chilean Rose Hair Tarantula - Rosa Leigh Died 4/21/06
0.1 Goliath Bird-Eater Tarantula - Natasha donated to science 4/4/06
?.? Pinktoe Tarantula - no name yet

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