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Just resuscitated my beardie!

DavidY May 03, 2006 10:25 PM

I just had the strangest thing happen. I got home tonight and went to my herp room to check on my beardies. The lights were out and they were all sleeping peacefully. Then I noticed my male dragon laying on the substrate instead of on his usual perch. I looked closer and his mouth was slightly open and partially filled with substrate. It looked like there might also have been a struggle because he had flipped over his veggie dish and was on top of it. Anyway, I immediately opened his cage and picked him up and he was dead limp. His body was completely deflated, his whole front half of his body underside was black and his eyes were half closed. There was literally no life in him whatsoever. I took him to the sink and started to wash out his mouth to see if I could find out what caused this. I thought perhaps he had choked on something. I did manage to wash out all the substrate and a glob of slimey stuff came out, don't know what it was. Just seemed like mucous and substrate. Anyway, I used a soft airline tube to try to clear his throat. I had to at least try and see if I could save him, so I began giving him mouth to mouth resuscitation. I blew into his mouth enough so that his body would inflate. I know I was getting it into his stomach but I just hoped I was also able to get some in his lungs as well. I did this 2 or 3 times and then he let out a loud gasp, but then went limp again. I waited to see if he would breath on his own but he didn't, so I started blowing into his mouth again. Each time pushing the air back out by pressing gently on his belly and chest. I did this for several minutes only getting one more gasp but nothing else. Finally, I decided to try pushing on his chest with my finger to get his blood circulating. I did this combined with the blowing every few pumps and, lo and behold, he started gasping and moving a little on his own. He would try to breath a little and then would go limp again. I continued this for another 10 minutes or so until he was able to keep going on his own. His color started looking normal and his body seemed fuller again, but he was still not very conscious. So I put him under a heat lamp and now he is getting more and more back to normal.

He is able to breath better now, but he doesn't close his mouth all the way and every now and then he will raise his head, open his mouth and suck in a big gasp of air, then slowly exhale with a slight raspy noise. He is awake and aware of my movements and seems to be getting back to his normal self slowly. I'm pretty excited that I was actually able to save my beardie's life! Just thought I'd share it with you all.
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1.4.0 Bearded Dragons (Frodo, Red Sonya, Galadriel, Arwen, Lakis)
1.1.0 Nosy Be Panther Chameleons (Fred and Wilma)
1.1.0 Peacock Day Gecko
0.1.0 Gold Dust Day Gecko
0.1.0 Columbian Red-Tail Boa (Bilbo)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Daisy)
0.1.0 California King Snake (Cali)
1.1.0 Honduran Milk Snakes
0.0.3 Fire Belly Toads
0.1.0 Fat Cat (Mollie)
1.0.0 Mini Pinscher x Chihuahua (Pepper)

Replies (9)

DavidY May 03, 2006 10:42 PM

Here's a picture of Frodo under a heat lamp recuperating after his ordeal. I figure he must have been dead for at least an hour since the lights were timed to go off at 9:30pm. Most likely, whatever he injested that he was choking on happened while he was still active, before the lights went out. I didn't find him until almost 10:30pm! By the way, he is definitely doing much better now.

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1.4.0 Bearded Dragons (Frodo, Red Sonya, Galadriel, Arwen, Lakis)
1.1.0 Nosy Be Panther Chameleons (Fred and Wilma)
1.1.0 Peacock Day Gecko
0.1.0 Gold Dust Day Gecko
0.1.0 Columbian Red-Tail Boa (Bilbo)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Daisy)
0.1.0 California King Snake (Cali)
1.1.0 Honduran Milk Snakes
0.0.3 Fire Belly Toads
0.1.0 Fat Cat (Mollie)
1.0.0 Mini Pinscher x Chihuahua (Pepper)

mkco79 May 03, 2006 10:55 PM

That is absolutely wild, crazy, insane!! Wow!! Its unbelievable. Good job man, kudos to you!! Hopefully he will not have any ill effects due to the lack of O2 and all! Crazy! Good job again and i hope he makes a full recovery!
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Mike & Wendy

2.0.0 Siberian husky, Jackrussel/schitzu
0.0.1 Ball Python
1.0.1 Leopard Gecko
1.0.0 Beardie
4.0.0 Beta's
3.1.0 Future Herper's

beachbeardies May 03, 2006 11:08 PM

wow, what a great story. glad to hear hes doing better. if i were you i would still take him into a vet to get him checked over to make sure no damage has been done internally. if he swallowed something harmful it may lead to future problems. even substrate can cause problems when swallowed. anyways, thanks for sharing your story, its amazing what you can do. good luck with him!

PHLdyPayne May 04, 2006 11:14 AM

Fantastic story and great save! I don't think he could have been 'dead' for an hour though, maybe he inhaled something in his sleep causing him to struggle and when you came in he may have taken a mouth full of sand as he passed out. Whatever happened we will never know. You did great!

I strongly suggest getting him to a vet asap, even emergency care. Whatever caused the problem could still be present and a complete checkup would be best.
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PHLdyPayne

DavidY May 04, 2006 11:57 AM

Yea, thanks. I'm amazed myself! I felt like Steve Irwin or something. I was wondering myself how long a beardie (or any similar sized reptile) can survive without oxygen. Being cold-blooded definitely helps them to survive longer than a mammalian. Also the fact that the lights had turned off and he was cooled down also must have helped. You're probably right though, he most likely stopped breathing not too long before I found him. I'm just glad I went down to check on them before I went to bed!
He is doing much better today. I put him back in his cage and set the light timer to stay on for four hours so that he could warm up and get his breathing back to normal before falling asleep again. He then had 6 hours of "night" and, as of now, he has been awake again for 3 hours. He seems to be completely back to normal again. I will bring him to the vet before I try to feed him again though.
Thanks all for sharing this exciting event with me. I feel closer to my "babies" than ever now.
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1.4.0 Bearded Dragons (Frodo, Red Sonya, Galadriel, Arwen, Lakis)
1.1.0 Nosy Be Panther Chameleons (Fred and Wilma)
1.1.0 Peacock Day Gecko
0.1.0 Gold Dust Day Gecko
0.1.0 Columbian Red-Tail Boa (Bilbo)
0.1.0 Ball Python (Daisy)
0.1.0 California King Snake (Cali)
1.1.0 Honduran Milk Snakes
0.0.3 Fire Belly Toads
0.1.0 Fat Cat (Mollie)
1.0.0 Mini Pinscher x Chihuahua (Pepper)

evercraig190 May 04, 2006 04:44 PM

Man, I tried the same thing one time..i stayed up till 2am trying to save a beardies life with straw....he started having
"seizures"(sp)..and then the next morning he was gone....i tried my best to save him and thats enough for me...im glad you were able to save yours...i know its a wonderful thing...
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(soon to be the owner of an albino ball)
0.2 normal ball pythons
0.2 normal Redtail boa
1.0 Hypo Redtail boa
1.0 true Redtail boa
1.1 100% Het Albino Redtail boa
1 baby sulcata tortoise
0.0.1 Baby Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 Baby Red Uromastyx
0.1 GF Eryn (WC)

DavidY May 04, 2006 06:55 PM

Sorry to hear about that. I can only assume that I got to my dragon early enough that he didn't suffer any lasting damage from being without oxygen.

I tried the airline tube at first but only inserted it about 1/2" but I got worried I might be pushing something further down his windpipe so I removed it. Then I actually cupped my hand around his face and blew into his mouth until his body inflated. I didn't cover his mouth all the way so any excess air pressure could escape out the sides of his mouth. I'm just glad I didn't get salmonella!

JillianLamorie May 05, 2006 01:42 PM

My new little guy Ngozi, whom i've written about on here before, who has metabolic bone disease, also who has no teeth. We have to feed him with a syringe of pureed greens and crickets with vits and pedialyte mixd in. Anyway. he got a gulp of that down the wrong hole and it came out his nose. i had to do the whole mouth to mouth thing on him too. its pretty scary isnt it? He went limp too. and all black underneath. he had pureed food all over his mouth, which was gross. but i didnt want him to choke and die.
He's fine now, and getting a lot more used to using the syringe. The poor thing. Good luck. very big congrats to you.
what kind of substrate do you use anyway?

DavidY May 05, 2006 04:00 PM

Wow, that's even scarier on a baby dragon! I was nervous the whole time that I was going to injure him, but then I realized that he was dead and that anything was better than nothing. Even still, I didn't want to revive him just to suffer from a blown lung or something. Sounds like you're taking real special care of your little guy! It's definitely a bonding experience when we can do something for our pets.

I'm using Home Depot Play Sand in Frodo's cage but I had him in with my females which currently has granulated walnut for a substrate (which is what he had in his mouth). I will be switching them over to the play sand though.

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