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First off, I am proud to announce that I will be buying a N.E.R.D line Lemon Pastel male this month...my FIRST morph, from Tony Hurt at Reptile Evolutions.

I have a few questions though.

1: How does one "Create" their own line of Pastel?
I am under the impression that it would be getting an unproven pastel import and proving it. But let's say you get a Lemon Pastel import...
Sure, it's new blood, but it's still a Lemon Pastel. Would it still be considered an (insert name here) line?

2: What pastel lines are compatible? I know this has been asked many many times, but I never paid attention because it never really concerned me. Now that I am FINALLY getting a pastel...it'd be good to know for when I want to make Supers.

Thanks in advance.
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-Man fears the beast in the Wolf because he does not understand the beast within himself.

>I have a few questions though.

Since nobody else has taken a swing at this, I'll have a try at answering.

>1: How does one "Create" their own line of Pastel?
>I am under the impression that it would be getting an unproven pastel import and proving it.

You got it.

>But let's say you get a Lemon Pastel import...
>Sure, it's new blood, but it's still a Lemon Pastel. Would it still be considered an (insert name here) line?

My take is that first you have to prove that it's a lemon pastel and not a lookalike. Once that is done, then it's up to your powers of persuasion to convince the market that a real (insert name here) line lemon pastel is somehow superior or different enough, compared to other lemon pastels, to warrent retaining the line name.

>2: What pastel lines are compatible?

The way to prove that two pastel mutant genes are allelic (compatible) is to mate a pastel from one line with a pastel from another line and make five possible homozygotes (supers). Then raise them, mate them to normals, and get at least 17 babies from each super. If all of the babies are pastels, then you've got pretty good evidence that the two pastel mutants are either the same mutant gene or slightly different versions with identical or nearly identical phenotypes.

Just crossing two lines and getting a so-called "super" is not sufficient. That result could be produced by getting two independent mutants in the same individual and having the effects of the two mutants be additive.

I do not know whether anyone has made such breeding tests with any of the pastel lines.

Paul Hollander