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Hi, I got my female amel zig zag, also a male normal pattern amel.

I wanted to get a male zig zag, then was thinking what would happen if I found a striped male amel?

1 Would babies vary between zig zag and stripes?

2 Would be normal (if ZZ and Striped are unrelated genes) I doubt?

3 or other outcome for babies?

Just don't want to pass up a striped amel is I find one and it is as good or better for breeding to my ZZ.

thanks

tom

ps more pics to come, but as soon as I got her home I fed her and him. She is a little thin and I wanted to make sure she was eating.

>>Hi, I got my female amel zig zag, also a male normal pattern amel.
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>>I wanted to get a male zig zag, then was thinking what would happen if I found a striped male amel?
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>>1 Would babies vary between zig zag and stripes?
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>>2 Would be normal (if ZZ and Striped are unrelated genes) I doubt?
>>
>>3 or other outcome for babies?
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>>Just don't want to pass up a striped amel is I find one and it is as good or better for breeding to my ZZ.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>tom
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>>ps more pics to come, but as soon as I got her home I fed her and him. She is a little thin and I wanted to make sure she was eating.
>>
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according to mick's cornsnake progeny predictor:
you would have 100% amel het for zigzag and het for stripe. they are proven to be different genes so you would only get normal patterened amels unless they share a hidden trait.

~kin
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~SNAKIES~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Corns:
.1 Normal (Gertrude)
1. unknown hypo? normal? (Romeo)
.1 Miami Phase (Emily)
1. Amel het Blizzard (Dunesbury)
1. Classic het Hypo, poss het Amel, Anery (Cobra)
1.1 Classics (Henry VIII, Cassy [Emilys babies])
.1 Amel (Pepperoni)
1.1 Hypo zig zags poss het Caramel (Bernard, Abegail)
.1 Classic het Hypo, Stripe (Gracie Lou)

Rats:
1.1 Black rats (Cecily, Willard)

Cal Kings:
1.1 Striped Cal Kings (Skunky, Dweezil)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~LEOPARD GECKOS~~~~~~~~~~~~~

1. Normal het Midnight Blizzard (Mr. Spot)
.1 Blizzard

~~~~~~~~~~~~~TURTLE~~~~~~~~~~~~
.1 white cheeked mud (Opel)

Thats what I'm looking for, I know someone knows if striped is select breeding zig zags. Or related. they have had to breed these by now.

recessive trait such as stripe and motley. It is a selectively bred trait that often takes many generations of selective breeding to recover, once you have "diluted" it with a non-zigzag mate. I expect it is controlled by multiple genes and probably works in a similar way to other selectively bred types such as various specialty amels (candycanes, amel. okeetees, sunglows, etc).

Interestingly, I have bred my own line of zigs to several other unrelated lines and found that sometimes they produce a lot of zigs, and sometimes they produce mostly or all normals. It is just not predictable in the same way that stripes and motleys are.

So to answer your question, I would expect normally patterned babies that are het for stripe, although a few babies (or grandkids) might show some fused blotches - or they might not.

Hope that helps.

OK so zig zag is really unrelated to striped. I was not sure at all. at some time I'm sure one told me, but until you have a real interest at my age I forget such things lol.

I thought maybe Striped was line bred from Zig Zag, but I can see that would be touch and also luckty to turn a ZZ into a perfect strip.

SO I need a ZZ male.

Another big thanks to
Special "K"

tom