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Hi, I help someone at a shop. We have mainly done herps for 40 years, but keeping up on leo morphs and their values is tough if you are not into it.

First let me say I am not here to advertise and my name is NOT the shop.

We get in a lot of leos. I was the owner had marked an albino at one price and a carrot tail for less. That just seemed wrong to me. And yes it was an albino, not up on strains and doesn;t matter to much. But we get in hypos, albinos heck almost anything but normals, and the newer real high end stuff.

So I'm looking for an order of pricing, maybe with pictures so I can show the owner and we can offer them at appopriate prices.

Even if it just a nice site where someone has a simple list of leos and prices. So many people are trying to make sites "designer style" I do web pages, one bit of advice, make them user freindly. You are not selling your html skills, you are trying to show off your stock and make it easy to use.

So, HELP ME. This leo morphs drive me nuts. lol Dont get me wrong, some are very very cool. And the people coming up with some of the new stuff I admire for the work. But a book is useless as it is outdated the day you print it. So if anyone can show me a break down in values I would deeply appreciate it.

many thanks

Big Tom

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ontogeny recapitulate phylogeny

Charlie Mike

God knows all, and as man finds parts of that all, god changes those parts of all. Then he laughs at us!!!
(Me)

1.3 Bearded Dragons (Eenie, Meanie, Minie and Moe is the Male

6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock) All Named George
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.2 1 MIA In the house I hope (All corns named Ray Guy
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
2 Okeettes I think? 1.1 youngens
ochrocephala oratrix 0.0.1? Adult, and a killer!
ochrocephala auropalliata 0.0.1? Adult
2.0 Dogs, Michigan, Doc
0.2 Cats,, Sassie and Spooky (all black cat)
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!) I call her (BOSS)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom

www.herpzilla.com

well it all depends on the value and grade of the morph. there are many different morphs and many different grades of morphs. you can buy an albino for $20 but i recently bought one for 450 not including shipping. there are 3 differet strains of albinoism maybe more, las vegas, tremper, and bell strains. as far as hypos there is hypos, super hypos, and baldies but all are hypos. there are carrot tails, P-0 carrot tails. so anyhow it basically all depends. prices suite individual geckos, but there is no set price for any morph. maybe you could just watch the classifieds just to see what other people are selling them for.

OK, 95% of that I knew. I do not have the time to investigate 10000 morphs counting variations and grades.

What on earth would make an albino, any of the three strains, or even if someone bred 1 of all three, worth so much more than a "nice albino" $20 to $450. Of course people pay thousands for Koi. Sory, I just do not see a value swing that big.

just my opinion of course.

tom

it just all depends on what you are looking for at what quality. i see people ask this same question all the time but that is the only advice i have. on ron trempers site (leopardgecko.com) he does have a page on there that has something to de with pricing however i have never read it and is probably outdated like you stated about the books.

Maybe when I get a large group again, I may just post a picture and ask advice. If that is allowed. At times I have a lot of them, and totally lost of values. It should make for a fun debate.

I do appreciate the help. Maybe by next weekend I'll post a pic. I only help near the weekends. And its an hour ride, way to long just to take a picture.

Thanks
tom

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ontogeny recapitulate phylogeny

Charlie Mike

God knows all, and as man finds parts of that all, god changes those parts of all. Then he laughs at us!!!
(Me)

1.3 Bearded Dragons (Eenie, Meanie, Minie and Moe is the Male

6 baby female Western hognose, 3.5 adults some friend some mine,,,building breeding stock) All Named George
1 Corn snake (bloodred) 0.2 1 MIA In the house I hope (All corns named Ray Guy
1 baby creamcycle 0.1
2 Okeettes I think? 1.1 youngens
ochrocephala oratrix 0.0.1? Adult, and a killer!
ochrocephala auropalliata 0.0.1? Adult
2.0 Dogs, Michigan, Doc
0.2 Cats,, Sassie and Spooky (all black cat)
0.1 Wives, (Long term captive!,, I mean ME!) I call her (BOSS)
1.1 Kids (Paininthearsius takamemonii) J/K great kids
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tom

www.herpzilla.com

Hi Tom,
Alot goes into pricing a leo.... It is mainly its genetic backround and quality.... What would make an albino range from $20 to $400???? Not all albinos are created equally and some are mixed with other traits, be it recessive or co-dominant or even linebred.... So an albino super hypo tang carrot tail baldie will go for a heck of alot more than a regular albino and giant albinos will go for more than regular albinos.... Cant even imagine how much an albino Mack super snow will go for.... Most likely a couple of grand...

Plus, if you are a well known breeder, you can get a higher price on certain morphs....

So pricing is more on an individual basis, not so much on the morph its self.....

All I can say is we get some wild colors or lack of them in. I try to compare, but I'm just not into it, and that makes learning all the fine details. We sold what we called high yellows 2 years ago. Looking at sites they were hypo tanergines. They were bright orange and no markings. I think we sold them for $69. I know we must have sold a few high priced ones dirt cheap the past year or so. Like I said I'll post a picture. Maybe not talk prices? It might violate something.

Like on the price is right, you'll place them in ascending value order lol.

thanks for the help

tom