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Hope you all had a good weekend – thank you to all of you that welcomed me back from vacation – our family had a good time and the R&R was much needed!

How many ivories are imported a year?

Many many Snakes still not eating

The guy at the pet store recommended sand for substrate?

HELP.... ROUTE HEAT CABLE Apparently the average herper takes 4-5 tries to get the heat cable properly wired into their new vision racks. This thread reminded me of the old commercial with the owl – how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie roll tootsie pop.

How to properly set your thermostat question

Another live vs. FT thread I’m sorry I missed this one.

Do people really expect to sell animals with bad photos? Doesn’t it make sense to post the best photo that you can as opposed to one that is all dark, blurry or the snake is half covered in bad shed?

Thread on how long to leave them in the egg after they’ve pipped

List of reasons shy a ball would go off feed – this list could almost be as long as the “you know your addicted when” thread. LOL – lots of reasons … temps, stress, new enclosure, heavy traffic area, about to shed, time of year, just not hungry, dont like the color of the fur, illness, time of day, because they can, he’s messing with your mental stability, etc. etc.

First Clutch Ever – WOW – congratulations Marshall – I see at least one white head in the bunch!!!

Best temps for feeding response Could “normal” temps be too high to illicit a good feeding response?

Kinda surprised.... Is it really that surprising that people buy things they don’t know how to take care of? Grant it – keeping balls is fairly simple once you get your initial set up tweaked just right and learn to read your snake and eventually learn to accept the inevitables its not that complex – most people have the hardest time with accepting the inevitables.

Post em if you got em Pieds...
nextworld3
T.Exeter
methistina
GaryCrain
fgs
jrmiah
morphed
albinosunlimited
albinosunlimited
bhmorrill

Next Morph Purchase – which morph are you contemplating for your next purchase?

Spiders – Is there a super form? No, and so far no one has been able to conclusively determine if there is a homozygous spider either.

Thread off the Week

They rarely bite...

I mentioned before that I have this 6 year old rescue snake that is only 500 grams right? Well on Tuesday a young (18 or so?) neighbor girl and her boyfriend came over wanting to know if I had any BPs available. I don’t right now, but I do have these rescues (including the small 6 year old) that will be ready for new homes *soon*. So~ I showed her several of my big BPs, and explained that BPs “Rarely bite, and if they do it’s not really a big deal” (famous last words…….can you see it coming?)

Then I take her to the quarantine area to show her the rescues that will need homes soon. I pull out this small 6 year old and I’m explaining that this snake has been underfed and should be much larger. Just as I’m explaining that this snake has a very aggressive feeding response since being in my care the little *darling* (not the word I’m really thinking!) turns around and clamps down on my wrist right at the joint. Then wraps tight on my arm and proceeds to try his absolute best to KILL my arm (I’ll never be hungry again!).

Very calmly, and trying not to admit how VERY badly that hurts I explained that the snake is always hungry and it’s not that the snake is mean, just that at this point he doesn’t understand that he can’t eat anything warm and moving he spots. My fault, not his. The girl is practically in a panic~ wants to pry the snake off my arm. No! Very calmly I explain that if I just run my arm under the cold tap he’ll lose his appetite and let go.

20 minutes later I’m dripping blood profusely and the snake has NOT given up. He’s actually doing an admirable job of killing my arm.

I tell her, no problem, he’s just determined. We’ll take him down stairs and spritz a shot of bourbon in his face. He’ll lose his appetite.

5 more minuites…..the snake and I have both had a shot of bourbon…….and he won’t let go. Lots more blood and it’s getting difficult to pretend it doesn’t hurt!

No problem……here help me get this bucket. Poor all that ice in there please. Yes…..fill it with water to the top. This should ruin his appetite……..any time now…….the ice water is making my arm hurt less (there is a plus!) Wow…..I didn’t think they could hold their breath quite THAT long!

FINALLY he lets go~

And shoots out of the bucket lunging for my other arm!!

I avoided that one~ got a hold of his head with my free hand~ and dripping blood and ice water dashed him back upstairs to put him in his tub!

The girl didn’t call back, I don’t think she wants a BP anymore

I don’t understand why not……..

They “rarely bite, and if they do it’s not really a big deal”
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Cheryl Marchek
AKA JM

Threads From Hell

Fire Price

a little rant....

Price guide 2006

Revised Price guide 2006

Quotes of the week:

I find it amazing that people can be more negative than me – jyohe

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If you notice your snake takes more than 30 min. to get ready, its probably a girl. On the other hand, if after your snake eats, it burps loudly, and flips on the game, probably a boy... – jarskie

This Weeks Clutch Count:

Spider x Normal = 8 eggs - coldbloodaddict

dbl het Snow x poss. het Albino = 7 eggs - coldbloodaddict

Mojave x Normal = 11 eggs - chrismorasky

Some overlooked posts:

How did this happen we were doing so good?

Woma Characteristics
yep... got bored
sick?
So where are all the Stonewashed Pastels
Since she got going
need help possibly gravid kind long
is ovulation size equal to eggs
Heat Packs
Can females produce follicles
Sporadic breeding question
weird feeding response
Waiting to Feed
HMMMMMMMMM
My new additions
all men should learn from his example
heating a hatchling rack?

Some pics........... - Kevin_Arbogast

1st babies of 06, Pastels - GaryCrain

06 Reduced Pattern Hatchlings - tailswithscales

pastel - kylescott

Beautiful Baby - jeff favelle

Cool lil baby I produced... - bcijoe

My Incubator is almost full - kennyscott

Photogenic ?!? - ReptilesExotics

A few shots of a "decent" CH shipment - neilgolli

I believe the ovulation fairy came - Xtreme-Xteriors

Another great petshop find! PICS Inside - stickytongues

new bp pic's - havic

Unusual breeding technique - thebigsquease

Female Granite.............pics - tailswithscales

Whats wrong with him he looks different. - mkco79

Post em if you got em Pieds... - bhmorrill

Sporatic breeding question... - speedingbandit

Our newest addition.. - shinysnakeskin

Bees or Supers??? - rwoodyer

Two New Girls! - PHLdyPayne

The feeding response................. - EricIvins

PICTURE OF THE WEEK - Some pics of my best.... - pythoner

Pictures from the NC animal show. - Thomas j

Captive Hatched vs. Captive Bred? - jennrosefx

Vault - lizliz710

First hatchlings this year - rwoodyer

the "ringer" uma - raisnok

Happy Python - wftright

Our new addition and Frodo PIC'S - havic

Picky Pastel - tailswithscales

All images used in the WIR are being used legally under the fair use provision of the copyright laws. Apparently there are some that express their concern with this practice. If anyone has an issue with their images or posts being included in the WIR please let me know and I will be sure to exclude you from all further posts. These threads are supposed to be fun and enjoyable – if it becomes an issue then I will of course require consent to post your photos on the WIR – thank you to those of you that have already emailed me your consent.

Have a Great Week!!!!

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Tosha

"Nihil facimus sed id bene facimus"

6.34.0 Ball Python (Harry and Fluffy and gang)
1.0.0 Angolan Python (Anakin Skywalker)
0.0.1 Green Tree Python (Verdi)
0.1.0 Bredls Python (Smurfette)
0.2.0 Feline (Pippen and Pandora)
0.0.1 Desert Tortoise (Pope John Paul aka JP )
2.2.1 Fish (1,2,3,4)
0.0.0 frogs rescued from pool skimmer
0.0.1 Lizards of unknown origin

Tosha, your R&R seems to have worked well . I LOVE THIS STUFF!!!

Quig

I came back saturday night and got Picture of the week, and the pic was an accedint....I love it though

Boy am I glad you're back!!!
A week w/o the WIR is unthinkable!
R & R? where did you vacation?
Florida? Did you do any herping?

Nice review as always.

Hmmm..... I am surprised to read that some would complain about their pictures being used in this seeing as they put them on the forum for people to see in the first place!?! lol.
No problem with me having mine used.

np
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Kyle J. Stevens
Royal Variations Ltd.

Many a false step is made from standing still.

Thanks for taking the time to do something that many people enjoy. As for those that do not like it, don't read it! We are just keeping and breeding ball pythons, not trying to solve the worlds energy problems, don't take this so seriously.

As always great WIR don't ever stop. Thanks for all the hard work. And once again you always have our permision to use whatever we post.

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1.2.0 ball python (aragorn, arwen,`eowyn)
1.0.0 100% het pied (frodo)
1.0.0 columbian boa (squiggles)
1.0.0 rat snake (alabastered)
0.1.0 corn snake (baby)
0.0.2 whites tree frog (trevor, kirmet)
0.0.5 pacific green tree frogs
3.2.0 cats (rockie, bs, brownie, lerrado, kole)
1.3.0 kids (dilyen, dakota, chyanne, sierra)
Brian n Chrissy

"snakes are kind of like potato chips, you cant have just one"

Thanks for making a great response. It's always encouraging to hear someone stick up for common sense.

Bill
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It's not how many snakes you have. It's how happy and healthy you can keep them.

It's great to know that there are a lot of good people here on KS ... and supporting others that are here to make this forum entertaining and helpful to people who are new to ball pythons is important!!

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gail

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SBF

Awesome job as usual!! I missed a lot of what was on the board this week, I didn't see any of that Pied thread ... great pics in that thread, man, there were some beautiful Pieds there.

It's great to see so many people enjoy the WIR ... and to support your efforts to make this forum fun.

Thanks Tosha for your diligence that gives everyone their chance to shine in one of the most read threads on the board each week.

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gail

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SBF

Thanks Tosha, the WIR is always great and we all appreciate the time you put into it. IMO, this is all in good taste and there should be no negativity towards the WIR, but to each his own i guess. Thanks again and keep up the good work...

-Craig
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(soon to be the owner of an albino ball)
0.2 normal ball pythons
0.2 normal Redtail boa
1.0 Hypo Redtail boa
1.0 true Redtail boa
1.1 100% Het Albino Redtail boa
1 baby sulcata tortoise
0.0.1 Baby Bearded Dragon
0.0.1 Baby Red Uromastyx
0.1 GF Eryn (WC)

saying that someone does not like the WIR but who is it and why? To my knowledge most people like the WIR and it promotes everyone on the forum.
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Kyle J. Stevens
Royal Variations Ltd.

Many a false step is made from standing still.

k
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3.4 Normal Ball pythons (Hoss, Little Man, Adam, Helen, Annabel Lee and the new girls who gets named when they eat)
0.2 Snow corns (Legolas, Eurydice)
1.0 Amel het charcoal (Orlando)
1.0 Hypo het anery het Amel (Antony)
0.1 Amel het Stripe (Cleopatra)
1.0 Caramel Motley poss het Amel (Flick)
0.1 Amber (Amberly)
0.1 Normal Cal King snake (Sidhe which sounds exactly like "she"
0.0.1 GTP (Kissy the Red)
1.1 Haitian Boa (Enkil and Akasha)

And bunches of furry pets

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Thanks and take care - Joe Rollo
'Tis not the stongest of the species that will eventually survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change' Charles Darwin

I am always waiting for Friday's WIR and want to thank you for entertaining me and everyone else who waits for Friday to come! (Or Sunday )