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..are a bad investment. Even with them comming down in price you can still pay of a male co-dom in ONE clutch. Any other clutches and clutches to come for years after are profit. So what's the problem? If you can't make a few bucks breeding Balls then you give up to easy.

Kevin

One other thing to think about is look at the co-doms simply as visual hets. The Supers will hold great value for years to come.

No way man, co-doms are crashing and recessives are through the roof!!!!!!!!!!

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when life hands you lemons, make super lemons, bumblebees, etc...

Ssssshhhhh
Let people concentrate on recessives.
While they're concentrating on recessives, the number of co-doms will reduce, making their prices rise.
Then all us co-dom people will be all set. haha.
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-Man fears the beast in the Wolf because he does not understand the beast within himself.

I seem to be able to get nice money for either. I sell them for Market and sometimes more. It just takes me more time. I'm in no hurry.

Kevin

OK! If you say so.

No Kevin's right, it's still an investment, you just have to invest wisely and it still makes a profit, especially the supers. Look at the yellow belly, it's prices have dropped rapidly, but the ivory can still pull in a good 9k, which more than pays for anything invested in it. Dropping co-dom prices can be advantageous if one invests in them well, so quit whining.

I agree,with a twist.

It's all a gamble .
It is just that co-doms appeared to be the safer bet(to a whole wave of newbies:correction waveS).Since there was that chance of buying hets that weren't really het for anything when spending hard earned cash on initial investments.

Now that the collective have all hatched out the 50% ratio in co-doms,they are more apt to believe in the recessive hets,and their ratios of reproduction.
So now that's what the collective wants.The rest of the crayons to go in their crayon box.
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Charles Glaspie

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"There ain't no such thing as a free lunch".
An acronym created by my favorite author Robert A. Heinlein.

>>No Kevin's right, it's still an investment, you just have to invest wisely and it still makes a profit, especially the supers. Look at the yellow belly, it's prices have dropped rapidly, but the ivory can still pull in a good 9k, which more than pays for anything invested in it. Dropping co-dom prices can be advantageous if one invests in them well, so quit whining.
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when life hands you lemons, make super lemons, bumblebees, etc...

What I meant to say was, my post was a parody of some other peoples posts below, no whining here, I actually pointed out below that I thought co-doms were a better investment.
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when life hands you lemons, make super lemons, bumblebees, etc...

yeah I figured it was a joke, I was just saying it

I have had this conversation with a bunch of different people over the last couple years.... I don't think anyone that has been in this business for a long time will tell you it's a bad investment. This isn't just because they want you to buy from them either... If you use your head it's a no loose situation. Look at pinstripes they were what??? $25,000 - $30,000 three or four years ago... At the end of last year you could pick them up around 8 grand... So even if you bought one when they were $30,000 and first bred them last year it doesn't take too many baby pins to make back your money. Now that animal is paid off and other than food and maintenance everything here on out is profit, what is so hard to figure out with that... Even with how pastels have dropped it's not hard to make money... You pick up a male for $300-$400 this year breed it next year to 4 or 5 females produce 8-10 pastels sell them for $100 each you still double your money or more. Now again that animal is paid for and even if they go to $50 each the next year you are still making money.

People were making money and livings off of snakes well before the ball python morph market came along....

investment. If you breed it you will make your money back and then some. I don't care what you pay for it period. They are too prolific not too and they are only going to go so low and bottom out. Which some are already close. Peopel just aren't going to sell there mojave females because they are worth more to them than what people will pay. It is all about the white snake. Everyone is knocking it. How about in 8 years when they are affordable most everyone will want one in thier collection. They are that awsome. Every snakes has to stand on its own. A lesser platinum is worth much more than a Mojave hands down end of story. Now we all just need to go longer and everyone needs to carefully choose there projects and really work them. Look at what the pastel did to the CLown and how much it is. What is the lesser going to do with it and how much will that be? Everyone needs to look at the big picture here. Codoms are necessary for awsome crosses and they aren't going away. What is a lesser spider worth or a king pin? I will tell you Big bucks over 25k big bucks. That is the way it is. It seems that the older stuff is adjusting but the new crosses are taking there place price wise. I really do spend big money on snakes and still see any great codom as a wonderful snake to work with and enjoyable in more ways than one..

Joe at MKR
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As far as Mojaves go I still think they are going places. Hypo Mojaves are just sick. The Crystal Ball - Holy Sh*t. And I bet there are still more great things to come. I bet Mojave Pieds turn out really nice with the dark mojo colors in contrast with the white. Hell, just a nice plain Mojave still gets my rocks off and I wouldn't mind having a bunch more of them. All the morphs are still very desireable in my opinion. I'd love to have hundreds of Pastels. My problem is I even like the normals.

Kevin

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