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this is the 2nd year that my snakes have mated and I never get any babys . I dont know what I coud be doing wrong. ???????????

It is not difficult to get Chondro's to "hook up". Actually if you put them together once a month you will probably see them "hook up". just keep them together all the time. Let them pick the right time for mating. Of course, if everyone did this Chondro babies would be a dime a dozen LOL.

Chris

>>It is not difficult to get Chondro's to "hook up". Actually if you put them together once a month you will probably see them "hook up". just keep them together all the time. Let them pick the right time for mating. Of course, if everyone did this Chondro babies would be a dime a dozen LOL.
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Anthony Caponetto
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Please know all the risks involved. And above all be aware that one risk is that you will end up with gravid chondro's with fertile eggs as seen in the picture taken today. This clutch was laid 7 days ago and is my sixth for the year. Happens to be my second blue to blue Sorong clutch.

I am sure most people with chondro's don't want to be up late feeding babies at night so it is obvious why they wouldn't want some many babies.LOL

Chris

Well I agree with with the option of keeping them to together year round if you can minimize risks with feeding etc. But I disagree that this way you get lots of babies but I think it was meant as a joke (?)

It simply indeed is easy to get them to mate. It's the proper conditioning of the female especially that needs attention. Adequate weight/fatreserves and cycling is essential before the copulations can have the efefct you want (a growth of follicles, eventually successful ovulation). And after that, the egglaying which always is exciting to see if the eggs are fertile and you have done everything right and the female was up to it in every way. Than after eggs are laid the challenge of incubation begins. After you have done that part right, try get the babies to feed which can be quite the challenge and even sometimes can lead to some deaths. It isn't as easy as we'd like it to be but that's the challenging part and only with patience the babies will get there

I'd say inform yourself with some info from different websites and check the female's health (parasites cleaned, adequate feeding regimen: not too much, but adequate fatresverve build-up). You have a beautiful pair there and it would really pay off in the end if you keep trying. I'd try to put the two together in November or so and let them mate than. The natural outdoor temps drop and upcoming storms than and this seriously may have a small triggering effect as well.
The Green Dream

Chris, I didn't see it was you LOL I think that yor succes is not only due to the fact that you keep them together all year round, but that you have a system of husbandry and constant minor cycling in your snakeroom that give you succes year in year out? once the system works and your snakes are well acclimatised I think that is the most important part right? As for the housing them together, some breeders here do it as well with success, but I think you should do this with experience and you need to watch out with feedingtime. But indeed, there are more ways that work. Condition of the animals and having a "stable system of heating" in the snakeroom/cages is more important than anything IMO.

Hi Marc,

Yes my answer was partly tongue and cheeck and partly serious. It is an individual decision on husbabdry techniques. There are risks involved. Temperature feeding and cleaning can be very influential in breeding. As you said also parasites can effect the ability of chondro's to breed. I personally feel that the main reason that MOST people don't breed and why breeders who have 60 snakes only get 4 or 5 clutches a year is that they are missing the chance for fertile breedings by having the "humans choose" the time instaed of the snakes. I can tell you that since I have gone to this set up I get at least 6 out of 8 of my breeder females to lay every year as opposed to 1 or 2 out of 8 when I did the choosing. Imagine if the big breeders had an 80% breeder female success rate. Like I said Chondro's would be a dime a dozen. LOL HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE
Of course maybe I have just been blessed by the Chondro gods, or just plain REALLY LUCKY. Maybe I should buy a lotto ticket

Don't put your snakes together unless you know the risk's inlvolved. Some pairs are not compatiable for communial living

Later,
Chris

Chris, I agree that at least some people should leave them together for a longer period for mating and for the female to be at her best possible condition and most receptive state I used a 6 weeks first stint and than a week off and than another 4 weeks but most of the time 6 weeks was enough. Than again I by far don't have the experience as you have so thanks for sharing your expertise with us!

BTW, any pictures of your stunning Arus for us?