Okay, so we have some old data by Conant, Peterson, and others of large wild caughts. We have some members here who have also caught some large, if not record size specimens. I know you can send in field reports to the journal of herp. But is there any other I guess centralized means for keeping track of some of the record sizes of some of the Lamp subspecies? Anyone interested in trying to compile such a list? I sure am.